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    Excellent day for Australia in the inaugural Commonwealth Half Marathon Championships in Cardiff, Jack Rayner taking the surprise win in 60:59 and Celia Sullohern (71:04) getting silver in the women's behind Juliet Chekwel (69:43). Uganda took the team titles because it seems that all but one of the Kenyans were absent due to visa issues.

    Aldershot (surprise, surprise!) won the women's National 4-Stage Road Relays yesterday. Emily Hosker-Thornhill ran a quite rare sub-14 on this course (13:58). Jess Judd was 2nd fastest, 14:07. The course record is Steph Twell's 13:41 though Paula Radcliffe did run 13:26 on a course that was 35 metres longer. Stockport won the men's 6-Stage for their first road relay title. Quickest leg, Ross Millington 16:54, was some way off Chris Davies' 16:25 course record (again a faster time was set on a longer course by Richard Nerurkar, 16:15).
    Last edited by LuckySpikes; 07-10-18, 12:45.

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    The IAAF are doing their Year in Review articles this week instead of the usual end of December. First up, the Race Walks - https://www.iaaf.org/news/news/race-walking-2018-review

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    • #3
      the year having more or less finished, who do you reckon will win top 3 in Doha 2019.

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      • #4
        british , I meant

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        • #5
          maybe Muir,Mo if he does marathon,KJT a possible, I exclude relays at the moment.

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          • #6
            Muir, Mo, KJT, Dasher all have a better than evens chance. Prescod has a very outside chance if he continues his rate of improvement but I think his start will always hold him back.

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              The athletics at the 3rd Youth Olympic Games in Buenos Aires starts tomorrow at 6.30pm UK time and continues through to the 16th. It's on Eurosport and presumably will also be part of the BBC's Red Button coverage. If not, it will be live on the Olympic Channel at https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/yo...channel-x0409/ There's no British team in the athletics. There are a few Irish athletes (but no Sarah Healy).

              The medals will be decided in an unusual way. Each event, apart from the 1500, 3000 & 2000SC, will have 2 stages (no qualifying for a final). All athletes will compete in both stages and their marks added together to determine their positions and the medals. Presumably, this is to give all these kids the chance to compete twice rather than being a portent of things to come in future senior Olympiads! (Previous YOG have been used as a testing ground for various new events in the different sports including the mixed 4x4 relay.)

              In the 1500, 3000 & 2000SC they'll race once then on the 15th they'll all race a 4km cross-country race. Their combined positions in both events will then determine the medals for those track events! At least that's what I could gather from https://www.iaaf.org/news/iaaf-news/...letics-entries. Hopefully, this is not how they'll bring cross-country into the senior Olympics!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sovietvest View Post
                Muir, Mo, KJT, Dasher all have a better than evens chance. Prescod has a very outside chance if he continues his rate of improvement but I think his start will always hold him back.
                Waaaaay too early to be making predictions yet... I'll save that for probably mid-May next year!

                So much can happen between now and next September/October (I'm still surprised that the IAAF haven't re-scheduled some of the Diamond League events and push them back a week or so, just to avoid the prospect of a big gap between the Diamond League finals and the start of the World Champs).
                Injuries, a dip in form, new emerging talent or someone coming out of left field to become a serious contender or an athlete returning from injury to surprise - there's just too many factors to consider before I'll make some medal predictions.

                Times and performances though? Well I can perhaps make some *very* tentative guesses and hopes at what I want to see next season from the British athletes, starting with the women's sprints.

                First up, have one of either Daryll Neita or Imani Lansiqote break the 11 second barrier, joining DAS in achieving that mark. Its no good expecting Dina to carry all the weight of expectation in the women's sprints for this country; time for some of our other top talents to step up and improve.

                Similarly in the 200m, to have either Bianca Williams or Desiree Henry run regularly sub 23, and not just that, run well into the 22's at that. Henry is going to want to prove that she isn't the "forgotten" one from the same age group as Asher-Smith, and personally I feel that she'll be better at the 200m than in the 100m (though she has the potential to also run sub 11 seconds in my personal opinion).
                Beth Dobbin I feel hit her peak in the 200 this season and her mention of running more 400's next season is a feel the right direction for her to go in. Could she be this generation's Katherine Merry? She's already surpassed Merry's best 200m times and she's got the build of someone who could run not just well under 51 seconds in the longer distance, but under 50 seconds too.
                It'll be a big jump for her of course, with a best time at the distance of 53.21 during the indoor season, but the latent talent is there and more training for the 400 could start bringing it all out in the next couple of season. (Hopefully the comparisons with Merry won't extend to Merry's unfortunate run in with serious injuries that blighted her career.)

                In the 400m outside of Dobbin, I'll be eager to see how Lavial Nielsen follows up on her breakthrough in Berlin... surely her next target will be to break 51 seconds and with the way she ran during the Euro Champs, she has the running style and form to suggest she can do just that. Other than that though, the pickings are rather slim on the women's 400 side.
                TBO's 49.41 British record in winning the 2013 World Champs was the last time a British athlete ran sub 50 seconds, and since 2007 and the Brit 1.2 of Ohuruogo and Sanders at Osaka where both ran sub 50, other than TBO herself only Sanders (2008, 2009), PSD (2013) and Anyika Onuora (2015), have run times under 51 seconds... In fact, British women haven't managed a sub 51 since 2015!
                Hopefully Seren Bundy-Davies can overcome her years of injury bad luck to show some of the promise she held a couple of years ago. There's Jodie Williams' sister Hannah who set a pb this season who might make an advance into at least sub 52 territory next season. I'm not so sure we'll see much from the likes of Allcock, Clark or Onuora to be honest... and of course there is the enigma of Perri Shakes-Drayton and whether she can ever achieve any sort of consistent form and fitness.
                Last edited by RunUnlimited; 11-10-18, 15:11.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sovietvest View Post
                  Muir, Mo, KJT, Dasher all have a better than evens chance. Prescod has a very outside chance if he continues his rate of improvement but I think his start will always hold him back.
                  Zharnel Hughes the only other obvious candidate. Of course Dina will have a chance in both sprints. Will be interesting to see what SMU decides to do, the schedule is very unfavourable for the 200 / 400 double

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sovietvest View Post
                    Muir, Mo, KJT, Dasher all have a better than evens chance. Prescod has a very outside chance if he continues his rate of improvement but I think his start will always hold him back.
                    ugen and proctor also have a 50/50 chance of a medal and possibly hughes, maybe skinner in the marathon as well

                    outside of that we have a few medal chances - gemili, nmb , hudson smith, langford, pozzi, miller, duckworth, boswroth in the mens
                    in the womens - sharp, mcolgan, doyle, bradshaw and hitchon

                    obviously those are long shots and would require the athletes to be on absolute top form but they are slim chances

                    outwith that - lansiquot, awuah, nieta, hylton, agypong, nielsen, reekie, barret, lake, caudery, ogbeta, oladipo, emerson on the female side and edoburun, efoloko, chalmers, rowden, kerr, yee, gale, hague , myers and norris - are all young athletes who have done well this year and can hopefully push on next year
                    Last edited by drobbie; 12-10-18, 04:17.

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                    • #11
                      Skinner? Hawkins presumably? Unless Skinner switches from cycling...

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                      • #12
                        American softies! The big collegiate cross-country meeting in Wisconsin gets delayed 30 minutes because there's "frost on the course"!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post
                          American softies! The big collegiate cross-country meeting in Wisconsin gets delayed 30 minutes because there's "frost on the course"!
                          a bit like their golfers who crashed on narrow un-manicured fairways ( no money in it for the spoilt brats either!!)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by drobbie View Post

                            ugen and proctor also have a 50/50 chance of a medal and possibly hughes, maybe skinner in the marathon as well

                            outside of that we have a few medal chances - gemili, nmb , hudson smith, langford, pozzi, miller, duckworth, boswroth in the mens
                            in the womens - sharp, mcolgan, doyle, bradshaw and hitchon

                            obviously those are long shots and would require the athletes to be on absolute top form but they are slim chances

                            outwith that - lansiquot, awuah, nieta, hylton, agypong, nielsen, reekie, barret, lake, caudery, ogbeta, oladipo, emerson on the female side and edoburun, efoloko, chalmers, rowden, kerr, yee, gale, hague , myers and norris - are all young athletes who have done well this year and can hopefully push on next year
                            surely no medal chances for Langford, Pozzi, Hudson- smith, mcColgan, Doyle or Hitchon.

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                            • drobbie
                              drobbie commented
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                              hitchon won a world medal 2 years ago philipo, did you forget that? shes capable of doing so again, langford finished 4th at the last worlds his finish means he always has a chance of a medal, mhs is improving and is not that far off being in contention, pozzi could win a medal if he ever gets it right outdoors, if doyle and mccolgan run their absolute best they should be in contantion, mccolgan still is improving too

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                            May be harder than we think for
                            KJT to medal. This has been a good year for her but the commonwealth and world indoor titles were against weak fields and she was not an emphatic victor in either. The Europeans lacked depth and one would expect Schäfer to come back stronger next year having put injury behind her that curtailed speed this year with her improved javelin pb - a good competitor. Add to that Erica Bougard who was in the 6700’s this year, Yorgelis Rodrigues also in the 6700’s who is perhaps making the greatest progress under her new coaching set up and the return of LIA post injury who is a 6800 competitor and it starts to look like a tasty event! Thiam will also be the one to beat!

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