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  • trickstat
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    Yes, the Budapest WCs are 19-27th August.

  • Sprintfan
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    Frankly Stained is an unknown quantity. A Good PB time
    1:45.28 earlier this year, but I think he has no Championship experience at all.....and that counts for a lot in 800's

  • marilyn1
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    jimbo, right on with that observation. The WC are the earliest they have ever been , since 1983.Just a crazy demanding year for Europeans and Africans. Back to normal next year, hopefully.

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  • trickstat
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    Remember also that we have another WC in Europe next year which may make many athletes feel they are not missing out too much if they don't make Eugene.

  • jjimbojames
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    Being CWG or Euro Champion is likely to bring more rewards (sponsorship etc) than just missing a WC final - neither gets you on UK Sport funding, either!

  • jjimbojames
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    I don’t get this decision - nationally and internationally the 1500m is loaded, and EG almost made the OG final over 800m - an event that is wide open!

  • marilyn1
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    Originally posted by Occasional Hope View Post
    Rowden looked below par in Ostrava. Giles had what was said to be a minor injury indoors, but slightly worrying that we've heard nothing since.

    It is still early season, everything seems to have kicked off internationally much earlier than usual, maybe because the WCs are quite early.

    In the women's, of course we have Keely, but Jemma doesn't look great so far; Alex Bell has run one 800 so far, just outside 2m and just behind Jemma on this year's list. No sign still of Lynsey Sharp's return - and another near veteran, Shelayna Oskan Clarke hasn't run yet this year - has she retired?
    It is relativelyearly in the season, but athletes knew that the WC were several weeks earlier than usual. I said it before so i will repeat; a lot of our athletes on the track will do better after the WC than before. In addition British competitors get 3 bites of the cherry this year and there are those in my view that will be happy to compete at their best in mid to late August and will find it a little easier to compete in Birmingham and Munich.

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  • Ladyloz
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    We can actually send 4 to Eugene as Keely has the Wild card as Diamond League winner from last year.

  • MysteryBrick
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    I absolutely see Ben Pattison running something in the 1:44s soon. He has run 3 outdoors races over 800m-1000m, won them all and run a PB in one of the 800s, he's ready to run quickly.

    Rowden hasn't had the best of starts but has just run a 1:45 and he was 4th in Doha, which isn't a bad placing. Hopefully it is a case of timing his peak right.

  • carterhatch
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    Re; Thomas Staines, some seasons back [2018] I'd convinced myself we had a genuine 400/800 type in the making, then he almost didn't for run 2/3 years [COVID, Injury, who knows], so good to see him return and another forum user think highly of him...

  • Loop-guru
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    On the mens side we could see more of a changing of the guard. I think of the three selected last year Elliot Giles seems to be making a move up to 1500m, Daniel Rowden seems off the pace but his times are improving and Oliver Dustin is struggling in BMC meetings & again is improving. From a long way out I am going with Max Burgin, Thomas Staines and Ben Pattinson as the three most likely candidates. I think both Thomas and Ben are capable of getting the standards for the worlds and Ben has a really impressive finish in the races I have seen him in this year.

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  • Loop-guru
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    Given that Keely, Gemma and Alex all have the standard from either this year or last year then I think that's your most likely trio for the worlds and the europeans. Laura Muir could have something to say but may struggle to hit top form this season. Adelle could and should have a go at the 800 metres at the commonwealths. I think that her move to 1500 metres has gone better than hoped and I think a sub 4.00 is on the cards at some point this season. Alex Bell's move to 1500 metres has not gone so well thus far. She is also a bit slower at 800 metres this year than she was at the same time last year so I feel she may have fallen off a bit in the 800m in attempting to train for the 1500m. It may not be too late for her to switch back to the 800m in time for the trials and that may well be her plan anyway with a few early season 1500m to see how she is shaping up. Alex does not have the 1500m standards for the europeans , the worlds nor the commonwealths at this stage so the 800m is definitely the way forward. Just noticed there is only 23 days to the trials so we are probably past early season markers now.

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  • carterhatch
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    Originally posted by Occasional Hope View Post

    In the women's, of course we have Keely, but Jemma doesn't look great so far; Alex Bell has run one 800 so far, just outside 2m and just behind Jemma on this year's list. No sign still of Lynsey Sharp's return - and another near veteran, Shelayna Oskan Clarke hasn't run yet this year - has she retired?
    The Hodge is truly a blessing for British Athletics. What is ironic is that the likes of Adelle Tracey [PB in 1500, and got to love her smiling grimace] and Walcott-Nolan [DNF Ostrave according to Po10] saw a stacked 800 for selection for the coming seasons and sensibly moved up, only to find Reekie still recovering from illness, Bell running very lightly so far and Boffey not quite there yet & Muir high unlikely to race 800 at Worlds?

    If I were Tracey, given her fine form, I might just throw in a 800 and try and get the Worlds QT just to give the selectors soemthing to think about...

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  • carterhatch
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    Thank you, treadwater1...

  • treadwater1
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    Giles is doing the 1500 in Hengelo

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