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  • carterhatch
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    Not mentioned, from the weekend USATF Golden Games results from America, were the runs of three Brits... and it had me retiurn to the 'state of play' series I started a couple of years back..

    Josh Kerr ran a 1.45, just outside his PB, but I suspect he is focusing on 1500, and rightly so as he is a leading contender for selection, but Learmonth and Langford would be disappointed with their times...

    I have no intel on this, but I am nervous at the lack of news about Rowden, and Burgin, as the former has the talent to podium at Tokyo and the later's trajectory had been very promising, added to the astonishing breakthrough of Giles, and Webb, the m800 at trials is going to be a real highlight (if you follow British Swimming, it could be the equivalent of the men's 200 free) ... might Wightman be disuaded from doubling-up, and to a lesser extent D'vall Grice? One or two of the U23, including my Staines who had had high hopes for, will also be in the mix...

    Yes, dear Forum, that's going to be quite a contest.

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  • Occasional Hope
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    Lots of people were faster than Gourley last year too, they just ran stupidly slowly in the trials.

  • treadwater1
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQT4...ature=emb_logo

    Daniel Rowdens silver medal winning run from a few years ago is quite revealing, he had the turn of pace back then

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  • MysteryBrick
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    Article on Daniel Rowden on the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/54317583

    Looks like he'll be a bit less under the radar next year, people have twigged how good he is.

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  • Paps
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    West was ahead of Gourley last year too so I shouldn’t be too surprised that he’s got quicker still. Being based on the US and having not been a superstar teenager I think he’s often overlooked a bit, but he’s a hell of an athlete.

  • treadwater1
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    Looking at the 1500 rankings tonight on power of 10 I see that James West, Piers Copeland and Marc Scott have all run quicker than last years world championship finalist Neil Gourley’s PB. Men’s 1500 is starting to look very competitive at the domestic level. Marc Scott is more of a 5000m runner of course but next years trials race will have 5-6 runners who could realistically make the team rather than last years 4. Piers Copeland is looking like a dark horse to get a Tokyo berth with his fast finish

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  • carterhatch
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    I agree that Giles has certainly raised his game, and grasped the few opportunities of this season - another winter, and showing this new found belief displayed in the way he took on the race last ngiht, might well see 1.43 and bits .

    I set up this thread with mostly the rise and rise of men's 800 in mind. Yet watching Adelle Tracey last night, mention must be made of the forthcoming battle for places in the womens too. Chapeau to her, she interviewed extremely well, reminding me she is no longer on funding, and I have to say, in the heart and humditiy of an immediate post run looked very, VERY, easy on the eye - that smile is marketing gold.

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  • alfie
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    Originally posted by MysteryBrick View Post
    Another PB from Giles, he's looked really good this year. My bet for top 2 at Nationals next year along with Rowden.
    Agreed. Really liked that run from Giles : had the courage to go after the pacemaker ; and kept going nicely to the finish. Good PB a fitting reward.

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  • MysteryBrick
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    Another PB from Giles, he's looked really good this year. My bet for top 2 at Nationals next year along with Rowden.

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  • philipo
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    Originally posted by gghurdler View Post

    It will be interesting to see where our runners fit into the global picture next season. Men’s 800 is a changing event at present, it looks like the Rudisha years are coming to an end, I know he is attempting a comeback for the Olympics but it will be difficult for him to challenge Brazier. There is a nucleus of promising athletes in their early 20s, in Arop, Hoppel, Murphy, Vasquez and Korir, who could be fixtures in finals over the next few years. Rowden looks every but as good as them
    we all recall two athletes who finished just behind Rudisha in 2012 who were hardly on the world stage at that time. If its true that a week is a long time in politics, a year is a very long time in track and field.! I bet that, assuming OG goes ahead next July , at least one or two in the final are not in the radar currently.

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  • philipo
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    Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post

    Yep, Rowden is the real deal! Never looks stressed. I just hope he can stay injury-free because, after 30 years of bright hopes who've never kicked on and really delivered, I think we've got one here who's going to buck that trend.
    it may be putting the mockers on any of our athletes talking about the real deal.!!

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  • trickstat
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    He now ranks =9th on the UK all-time list together with a certain Mr Ovett. Hopefully, it's just a staging post, especially as you often need to run fast times in champs 800s.

  • gghurdler
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    Originally posted by MysteryBrick View Post
    Another cracking win by Rowden yesterday, beating a top field including Wightman, Giles, Tuka, Kramer, Vazquez and World #2 Hoppel. I'd go so far as to say that if there were a global championship next weekend, I would be surprised if he wasn't at least top 5, and if he has a good winter could be a real Tokyo medal hope.
    It will be interesting to see where our runners fit into the global picture next season. Men’s 800 is a changing event at present, it looks like the Rudisha years are coming to an end, I know he is attempting a comeback for the Olympics but it will be difficult for him to challenge Brazier. There is a nucleus of promising athletes in their early 20s, in Arop, Hoppel, Murphy, Vasquez and Korir, who could be fixtures in finals over the next few years. Rowden looks every but as good as them

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  • LuckySpikes
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    Originally posted by MysteryBrick View Post
    Another cracking win by Rowden yesterday, beating a top field including Wightman, Giles, Tuka, Kramer, Vazquez and World #2 Hoppel. I'd go so far as to say that if there were a global championship next weekend, I would be surprised if he wasn't at least top 5, and if he has a good winter could be a real Tokyo medal hope.
    Yep, Rowden is the real deal! Never looks stressed. I just hope he can stay injury-free because, after 30 years of bright hopes who've never kicked on and really delivered, I think we've got one here who's going to buck that trend.

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  • Stew-Coach
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    Mightly impressed with male and female MD running lately tbh, very positive

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