shameful nonsense - transgender athletes to compete against women under new rules

[drobbie]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2023/01/20/exclusive-world-athletics-set-allow-transgender-athletes-compete/

an absolute disgrace if true

[Occasional Hope]

THis is very disappointing.

[LuckySpikes]

This is where unquestioning liberalism gets us. Here the rights of the many will get trampled over in favour of the "rights" of the few.

How long before we see the following "Women's" world records?

400m: 46.10
800m: 1:49.50
High Jump: 2.20
etc etc

[Laps]

Agree Lucky Spikes. Our exceptionally tolerant society has been allowing some minorities to ride roughshod over the interests of the majority for a considerable time.

For me this World Athletic's problem stems from their approach to the 'science', comparing the performance of moderately talented 'biologically male' athletes eg Semenya with elite female athletes and being only able to prove limited performance advantage, demonstrably over few events. Consequently their confidence of winning in court quickly runs out. They succeeded with CAS but only to this limited extent. Rather than do the job properly they then stopped.

Obviously theirs is not the sensible way of making the comparison or amassing adequate data to establish a robust policy covering all women's events. A blanket ban has always been necessary. Without it women's athletics will always be under some threat from 'male' athletes in one guise or another.

[LoveSprints1]

It is shocking and disgraceful that WA is throwing women's sport under the bus. I have every sympathy for boys/ girls/ men/women who feel they are living in the wrong gender, but If biologically born males (transwomen) want to compete, they should be able to do so only either as males or in an open category. Transwomen are not women. They are men who, rather than focus on redefining manhood, instead choose to appropriate and trample on womanhood. An active and vocal minority of them also suppress, troll and denigrate the opinions of any woman (or man) who speaks out against their right to be or compete as women.

Seb Coe and WA should be absolutely ashamed that they are ignoring the science, which they concede shows that reducing testosterone does not create a level playing field. Even after taking such drugs, biologically born males who have gone through puberty will retain enough strength, aerobic capacity, speed etc to dominate women's sport.

A woman is an adult human female. Women's sport should not be a retirement plan for mediocre male athletes.

[sidelined]

What astonishes me is that WA, in the leaked consultation document, admit that transwomen retain physiological advantages (surprise, surprise) over females but still say their preferred option is to include transwomen in the female category! That's overt sex discrimination. It's been suggested that WA is terrified of expensive litigation if they don't concede to the trans lobby, but surely if they implement this policy they'd be open to a class action by women?

I really hope that more elite athletes speak out about the insanity of this policy.

Does anyone know how to email WA, as opposed to filling in their little contact form which doesn't guarantee a reply?

[DerbyCountyinNZ]

I really hope that more elite athletes speak out about the insanity of this policy.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/64396740

Hopefully the start of a flood of such responses.

[LoveSprints1]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/64396740

Hopefully the start of a flood of such responses.

Good for Amelia being brave enough to speak out. Emily Diamond and Jade Lally have publicly supported her. Male and female athletes and non-athletes need to raise their heads above the parapets and just stop this farcical hijacking of women's sport. If male sports and events were threatened, this would not even be discussed. It would have been stamped out immediately. It was bad enough when the Eastern bloc was doping and the number of records taken away from women by drugged women. Now, are we all going to stand by and let TW and DSD athletes (intersex males who at birth presented as female) steal from this generation?

[sidelined]

More power to Amelia's elbow! I got a response to my comments from World Athletics which just said that the proposal is only for consultation and no decision has been made yet. I suggest everyone writes to WA. Link here:

https://www.worldathletics.org/about-iaaf/contact-us

It's probably a good idea to write to UKA too, since they'll be responding to the consultation. I have, but no reply yet...