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  • Best woman’s 4x4 lineup

    Looking ahead to Munich..and assuming everyone fit

    Vicky-laviai-Nicole-jodie?

    or would you have Ama in?

  • #2
    I tend to like a fast 200 runner on second for their tactical speed at the break, so I would probably go Vicky-Jodie-Laviai-Nicole if Jodie has no baggage RE what happened in Brum.

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    • #3
      Jodie prefers second, so I’d assume Vicky-Jodie is locked in, and so if all fit (Laviai?) I’d go with Christy’s line up. Heats: Ama - likely to run, Zoey looked good - but hard to tell on the TV angle. Jodie only doing the 200m should help matters.

      Pre Oregon, I’d have said it would be good to see Lina run, but she doesn’t look the same athlete just now, so likely will be left out.

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      • #4
        Assuming that nobody drops out following the CGs, I think you have VO and Jodie definitely in the final and then 2 of whatever you think looks best after the heats/the champs in general.

        Both Jodie (200m final) and Jessie + Lina (400m hurdles) could have a final the same day as the heats. In that scenario why risk them being tired for an individual final when we have 6 other people to choose from for the heat?

        If I was taking a truly maverick approach, you go VO, Zoey, Ama and Hannah for the heat. It would be the only run of the week for the latter 3. If any of them run well in that, you consider them for the final. We had 5 seconds over the slowest European team that made the final in Eugene (I'm assuming that both Pol and Ned sort themselves out). Even a patchwork team like that should make it.

        A safer heat would be VO, Zoey, Ama, Nicole/Laviai.

        If none of the 'reserves' look good for the heat, you go VO, Jodie, Laviai, Nicole for the final.

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        • #5
          Vicky O - Williams - Pipi - Yeargin

          Laviai to come in on any leg if needed but the above 4 would be my first picks.

          Would love to know Beth Dobbin’s split from the other night, was it even sub 52? It didn’t look super fast but she was up against Jodie Williams which could have made it look slower than it was

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          • marra
            marra commented
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            53.5. So very much not sub 52 lol.

            Clark did a 51.9 on lead off, Yeargin a 51.5 on anchor.

          • SprintRelayFan
            SprintRelayFan commented
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            Oh marra do you have a link to the full splits please?

        • #6
          Anyone know if Laviai is available? I suspect Lina will withdrew as she's clearly not right after her recent MS flare up sadly.

          ​​​​​​I would go with Vicky, Jodie, Laviai and Nicole as the first choice with Jessie, Ama and Zoey as back up as required.
          Last edited by Ladyloz; 08-08-22, 23:24.

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          • #7
            I think the actual correct answer to any 'best theoretical British 4x400 team' includes a surprise DAS dropping a 49.x split somewhere with her 21.8 speed, but that sadly ain't likely to happen...

            In terms of what is likely, I think VO - Williams - Yeargin - Nielsen sounds best.

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            • marra
              marra commented
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              Covering yourself with a blanket Nielsen there Mystery. Could have gone further and put L. Nielsen instead.

            • SprintRelayFan
              SprintRelayFan commented
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              To be fair he’s not actually said which Williams either….could be one of three 😂

            • MysteryBrick
              MysteryBrick commented
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              Haha - my plot for a team of (U17 athlete) Veronica O'Neil - Bianca Williams - Yeargin - Lina Nielsen has been foiled.

              For the removal of doubt, though, it was Jodie and Laviai.

          • #8
            Your knowledge is astonishing, I’ve never heard of ms o Neil!

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            • RunUnlimited
              RunUnlimited commented
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              Apparently Veronica O'Neill is an U17 athlete representative for the City Of Derry athletics club, is a hurdler over 80m, 100m and 300m.

            • MysteryBrick
              MysteryBrick commented
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              It was just a quick search for anyone with a first name beginning with V and last name beginning with O who has been vaguely near a 400m this year, nothing more...

          • #9
            Ama Pipi has moved above Yeargin in the pecking order. Ama was a creditable 4th in Brum, while Yeargin failed to make the final. Ama’s split was also quicker than Yeargins. Laviai was superb in Eugene, so I’d like to see her involved in some capacity, she has been entered into the individual event, so presumably is ready despite missing CWG. VO on lead-off has been a real find this season. Tricky to know who to put on anchor if JW prefers the second leg

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            • MysteryBrick
              MysteryBrick commented
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              Good point on Pipi.

              Laviai is an excellent relay runner so usually outperforms her SB.

          • #10
            Has anyone got ENG’s splits - the CWG website doesn’t have them, after the DQ?

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            • #11
              I think I read that Yeargin had covid at some before or just after the Worlds. Would probably put her in the relay before Pipi but it’s a close one. I feel like Yeargin is more likely to drop a surprise fast split whereas Pipi is more likely to drop a stinker. But she did run really well at CWG

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              • #12
                Approx. splits for EA women using coaches eye, were 50.9 / 51.9 / 50.9 / 51.8 (within a tenth as of course camera angle isn't exact on line)

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                • #13
                  Would love to see Keely run. Ran 52.4 indoors with an awful start and running wide. Reckon she'd deliver a low 51 or high 50 relay leg. 800 runners, like 400mHers seem to cope better than 400 specialists with the changes of pace that are often forced upon athletes in relays.

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                  • Stew-Coach
                    Stew-Coach commented
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                    she also ran 52.4 at this years outdoor champs, appearing to lack the foot speed over the 1st 200m in each round.


                    Slightly disagree in regards to 800 runners and 400h being able to cope better, the key is flat foot speed, this is king. Yes a long hurdler may be used to kick off the final hurdle and an 800m runner may "kick" off the front, but these are at much slower speeds than a relay would be performed at. Don't disagree with a comment that the "strength" both these events require isn't beneficial, but this isn't due to any change of pace its purely down to approach speed in that last 50m -but generically would be coming through faster perhaps .025-5 meter per second in the closing, if practiced as these require much more awareness of the outgoing runners).

                    Hope that makes sense? not that I have a say lol just my thoughts
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