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  • #46
    No Eilish McColgan. Hopefully is able to shake off the illness she had in Oslo.

    Gemili & Mitchell-Blake just running the 200 which makes sense.

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    • MR_ME
      MR_ME commented
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      If she is planning on the 10000 at the worlds then there isn't much point in her rushing back to do a 5000 at trials after sickness.

  • #47
    Latest weather forecast. Frustratingly it's 26 degrees and sunny tomorrow. Cooler over the weekend highs of 19-21, 30% chance of rain Friday but much less likely on Saturday & Sunday

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    • #48
      Originally posted by Ladyloz View Post
      Latest weather forecast. Frustratingly it's 26 degrees and sunny tomorrow. Cooler over the weekend highs of 19-21, 30% chance of rain Friday but much less likely on Saturday & Sunday
      The last few weeks in this country, when it has come up that an important athletics event is on the horizon (like the Birmingham DL, or the U20s Multievents Champs in Bedford), the weather leading up to it has usually be good to great for an athletics event to go ahead... Then, the day before it starts, the weather takes a nose dive and it's cool/rainy/windy/combo of all of those things! Annoying!

      However, the forecast is better than it was looking it would be last week, where the top temps were being predicted to be a "balmy" 15/16C, with rain on the Saturday and Sunday. Also, it looks like the wind direction will be a south-south westerly, which means a decent tailwind for the Sportscity Arena. Good for the sprinters in that regard at least, and for any of the distance athletes still perhaps looking for a qualifying standard, these conditions will be easier for them than what is currently in Manchester today.

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      • #49
        I had been a little concerned about the men's 100&200 since Tokyo, felt like we've been struggling for some depth AND world class quality. Hughes false starting and Prescod's issues, as well as Gemili's injuries / off form, throw NMB in there - it was looking utterly mediocre.

        With the last month, and looking at the entries for both events this weekend, it does look a hell of a lot better - i've jotted down potential finalists, the depth is as good as it's ever been.
        In the 100m - Sam Gordon, Andrew Robertson, Tommy Ramdhan, Toby Makoyawo, Jona Efloko, Oliver Bromby, Harry AA, Miguel Francis and Adam Thomas could all struggle to even make the final.
        In the 200m - Toby Harries, Jona Efloko, Quianoo, Ramdhan, Makoyawo, Ferguson, Azu.. same situation.

        Without checking properly both of these events, if you're running under 10.30 and 20.90 it's going to be very unlikely you're not making a British Championship final. Not the case now.

        If we see Prescod with another promising run, a good double from Hughes and a host of solid times following behind, I really think we could see a British/English dominance in the sprints over the Euros & Commonwealths - for both Men and Women (haven't gone into the ladies as that seems to be gaining more and more momentum)

        As for the Worlds, there's a lottery medal there for someone to get.

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        • #50
          Originally posted by JamieSLA View Post
          I had been a little concerned about the men's 100&200 since Tokyo, felt like we've been struggling for some depth AND world class quality. Hughes false starting and Prescod's issues, as well as Gemili's injuries / off form, throw NMB in there - it was looking utterly mediocre.

          With the last month, and looking at the entries for both events this weekend, it does look a hell of a lot better - i've jotted down potential finalists, the depth is as good as it's ever been.
          In the 100m - Sam Gordon, Andrew Robertson, Tommy Ramdhan, Toby Makoyawo, Jona Efloko, Oliver Bromby, Harry AA, Miguel Francis and Adam Thomas could all struggle to even make the final.
          In the 200m - Toby Harries, Jona Efloko, Quianoo, Ramdhan, Makoyawo, Ferguson, Azu.. same situation.

          Without checking properly both of these events, if you're running under 10.30 and 20.90 it's going to be very unlikely you're not making a British Championship final. Not the case now.

          If we see Prescod with another promising run, a good double from Hughes and a host of solid times following behind, I really think we could see a British/English dominance in the sprints over the Euros & Commonwealths - for both Men and Women (haven't gone into the ladies as that seems to be gaining more and more momentum)

          As for the Worlds, there's a lottery medal there for someone to get.
          What's solid times, I wonder?.Brit dominance in the sprints in Euros and.the CG.The OG champ may have some comments and the Jamaicans also. Even a Kenyan

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          • #51
            I can see us doing perfectly well in the Euros. We've tended to do so in previous years and, even with Jacobs around now, there just isn't the depth in European sprinting to make it likely that we won't win some medals there.

            But I have to agree that I'd be far less sure at the Commonwealths. We have athletes that can compete, for sure, but there's so much more depth on the track in the sprints.

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            • #52
              Originally posted by Ladyloz View Post
              No Eilish McColgan. Hopefully is able to shake off the illness she had in Oslo.

              Gemili & Mitchell-Blake just running the 200 which makes sense.
              Will be paying close attention to Gemilis performance this weekend.

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              • CAML
                CAML commented
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                You must be salivating at the prospect of eviscerating his and no doubt many others performance this weekend. Don't peak too soon, remember there's 3 majors coming up to vent your spleen.

              • Sprintfan
                Sprintfan commented
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                It's as if you want to punish him. Sad? Sick? Or just nasty

            • #53
              Indeed.

              His 20.15 is in the World Athletics rankings, but not yet made it to either Po10 or TOPS.

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              • RunUnlimited
                RunUnlimited commented
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                In fact a bunch of British results from the last week have yet to make it onto Po10, EA, or even the WA website yet. For instance, we've had a bunch of European U18 results from last weekend that have significantly moved some UK athletes to the top of the U18 rankings both in Europe and the world, yet that haven't appeared so far.

            • #54
              I dont consider it legal if the top sites ignore it
              As for the CAML post, hope he is looking forward in the Manchester meet to cool, rainy conditions and copious second rate field events.
              I can assure you all there will be no underperformances, only those not fully fit or recovering from injury.
              If Gemili does not perform reasonably close to his alleged recent 20.15 I shall have pleasure in calling out the flag waver groupies here!!
              Last edited by marilyn1; 23-06-22, 16:04.

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              • Sovietvest
                Sovietvest commented
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                You don't consider it legal, even though WA does?! And why is it worthy of such skepticism. The guy has run 20.08 or faster on 10 occasions.

                I don't think any flag waving groupies on here have ever been unrealistic about Gemili's ability. He's never been more than a (very) long shot for a global medal and yet he consistently over-performed in several major champs. Astonishing that he managed those two 4th places in Rio and Doha - and hugely to his credit. Rarely have we had an athlete so good at peaking. I see that all but one of his top 10 200m times were achieved at a Champs.

                Will he run the same time in Manchester in cool conditions on a slow track, as he ran in Florida? Of course not. But if he runs 20.3 or faster then, based on his track record, he can be expected to run 20.0/20.1 in Eugene and that might get him into the final.

              • MBChristie
                MBChristie commented
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                Results:
                https://fl.milesplit.com/meets/48602...lts/821997/raw

            • #55
              there you go philipo https://www.thepowerof10.info/rankin...ex=M&year=2022 finally confirmed

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              • Sprintfan
                Sprintfan commented
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                Great to see. Don't you agree Marilyn? 😂😎

              • MysteryBrick
                MysteryBrick commented
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                IT ISN'T LEGAL BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE GEMILI.

                Oh, sorry, can't think what came over me...

            • #56
              All 3 days on IPlayer, red button, BBC Sports website and App.

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              • drobbie
                drobbie commented
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                it would be a bit more helpful if you didnt have to hunt around the website trying to find it though, would it be a crazy idea to actually advertise the bloody thing all week on the sports front page

            • #57
              One thought that occurred to me, on the GB men's side:

              First in the rankings this year.
              100m: 9.93 - only years with top ranking faster than this 1991, 1993, 1994, 2013, 2018
              200m: 20.15 (with a windy 19.99) - 1988, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 2000, 2001, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021
              400m: 44.35 - British record
              800m: 1:43.52 - 1979, 1981, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990
              1500m: 3:32.62 - 1979, 1980, 1981, 1983, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1997, 2002, 2004, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021
              5000m: 12:57.08 - 2011, 2012

              So the only years that were by this metric equal or better (at least 3 events with a faster Home ranking time) were 1988, 2013 and 2018. And given it's only June, the above lists are highly likely to get shorter in the 1500m (Monaco) and possibly the 100m, 200m and 800m.

              You can definitely prove anything with stats, this is a bit of a blunt instrument and it does ignore that some of the athletes and performances being compared against were all-time greats (Christie, Coe, Cram, Farah), but the sharp end of GB men is about as good as it has ever been on average, just missing a true global star (or in an event that is showing unprecedented strength - put Wightman and Kerr 10 years ago and they're megastars).
              Last edited by MysteryBrick; 24-06-22, 01:11.

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              • MysteryBrick
                MysteryBrick commented
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                Also interesting to note that all 6 of these events had a worse UK Number 1 every year from 2005-2010.

              • RunUnlimited
                RunUnlimited commented
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                Between 2005 and 2010 is widely remembered as pretty much the nadir for UK male athletes. On the track, they only managed to get 3 finalists across all the running events (Christian Malcolm - 200m, a fresh faced, 21 year old Martyn Rooney - 400m, and Andrew Baddeley - 1500m) and none of them got close to winning a medal.

                The field events were slightly better, with the silver medals of Philips Idowu in the triple jump (though it really should have been gold) and Germain Mason in the high jump. Indeed, we even managed to have three finalists in the high jump too, with Tom Parsons and Martyn Bernard joining Mason, finishing 8th and 9th respectively. And Daniel Awde also competed in the decathlon, finishing 20th.
                But even so, those could really hide away the fact that in the discus, hammer, shot put and javelin, not a single British male even *qualified* to make it to Beijing, just two editions from Steve Backley staging an epic duel for gold against Jan Zelenzny in Sydney.

            • #58
              Start lists and live results found here:

              https://manchesterukac2022.microplustiming.com

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              • #59
                If field events here were dire at some chosen time,in the past , is that supposed to be some convincing and comforting evidence that it doesnt matter that field events,particularly throws, are no good now.??

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                • #60
                  At least in the past we had pleasure in occasional jumpers, in the triple,and some decent few high jumpers,and a few javelin guys. What we got now, poor coaching and sweet FA.

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