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  • RunUnlimited
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    Between 2005 and 2010 is widely remembered as pretty much the nadir for UK male athletes. On the track, they only managed to get 3 finalists across all the running events (Christian Malcolm - 200m, a fresh faced, 21 year old Martyn Rooney - 400m, and Andrew Baddeley - 1500m) and none of them got close to winning a medal.

    The field events were slightly better, with the silver medals of Philips Idowu in the triple jump (though it really should have been gold) and Germain Mason in the high jump. Indeed, we even managed to have three finalists in the high jump too, with Tom Parsons and Martyn Bernard joining Mason, finishing 8th and 9th respectively. And Daniel Awde also competed in the decathlon, finishing 20th.
    But even so, those could really hide away the fact that in the discus, hammer, shot put and javelin, not a single British male even *qualified* to make it to Beijing, just two editions from Steve Backley staging an epic duel for gold against Jan Zelenzny in Sydney.

  • MysteryBrick
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    Also interesting to note that all 6 of these events had a worse UK Number 1 every year from 2005-2010.

  • MysteryBrick
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    One thought that occurred to me, on the GB men's side:

    First in the rankings this year.
    100m: 9.93 - only years with top ranking faster than this 1991, 1993, 1994, 2013, 2018
    200m: 20.15 (with a windy 19.99) - 1988, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 2000, 2001, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021
    400m: 44.35 - British record
    800m: 1:43.52 - 1979, 1981, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990
    1500m: 3:32.62 - 1979, 1980, 1981, 1983, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1997, 2002, 2004, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021
    5000m: 12:57.08 - 2011, 2012

    So the only years that were by this metric equal or better (at least 3 events with a faster Home ranking time) were 1988, 2013 and 2018. And given it's only June, the above lists are highly likely to get shorter in the 1500m (Monaco) and possibly the 100m, 200m and 800m.

    You can definitely prove anything with stats, this is a bit of a blunt instrument and it does ignore that some of the athletes and performances being compared against were all-time greats (Christie, Coe, Cram, Farah), but the sharp end of GB men is about as good as it has ever been on average, just missing a true global star (or in an event that is showing unprecedented strength - put Wightman and Kerr 10 years ago and they're megastars).
    Last edited by MysteryBrick; 24-06-22, 00:11.

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  • MysteryBrick
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    IT ISN'T LEGAL BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE GEMILI.

    Oh, sorry, can't think what came over me...

  • drobbie
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    it would be a bit more helpful if you didnt have to hunt around the website trying to find it though, would it be a crazy idea to actually advertise the bloody thing all week on the sports front page

  • Chafford1
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    All 3 days on IPlayer, red button, BBC Sports website and App.

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  • Sprintfan
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    Great to see. Don't you agree Marilyn? 😂😎

  • drobbie
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    there you go philipo https://www.thepowerof10.info/rankin...ex=M&year=2022 finally confirmed

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  • Sprintfan
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    It's as if you want to punish him. Sad? Sick? Or just nasty

  • MBChristie
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    Results:
    https://fl.milesplit.com/meets/48602...lts/821997/raw

  • Sovietvest
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    You don't consider it legal, even though WA does?! And why is it worthy of such skepticism. The guy has run 20.08 or faster on 10 occasions.

    I don't think any flag waving groupies on here have ever been unrealistic about Gemili's ability. He's never been more than a (very) long shot for a global medal and yet he consistently over-performed in several major champs. Astonishing that he managed those two 4th places in Rio and Doha - and hugely to his credit. Rarely have we had an athlete so good at peaking. I see that all but one of his top 10 200m times were achieved at a Champs.

    Will he run the same time in Manchester in cool conditions on a slow track, as he ran in Florida? Of course not. But if he runs 20.3 or faster then, based on his track record, he can be expected to run 20.0/20.1 in Eugene and that might get him into the final.

  • RunUnlimited
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    In fact a bunch of British results from the last week have yet to make it onto Po10, EA, or even the WA website yet. For instance, we've had a bunch of European U18 results from last weekend that have significantly moved some UK athletes to the top of the U18 rankings both in Europe and the world, yet that haven't appeared so far.

  • marilyn1
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    I dont consider it legal if the top sites ignore it
    As for the CAML post, hope he is looking forward in the Manchester meet to cool, rainy conditions and copious second rate field events.
    I can assure you all there will be no underperformances, only those not fully fit or recovering from injury.
    If Gemili does not perform reasonably close to his alleged recent 20.15 I shall have pleasure in calling out the flag waver groupies here!!
    Last edited by marilyn1; 23-06-22, 15:04.

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  • CAML
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    You must be salivating at the prospect of eviscerating his and no doubt many others performance this weekend. Don't peak too soon, remember there's 3 majors coming up to vent your spleen.

  • Ursus
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    Indeed.

    His 20.15 is in the World Athletics rankings, but not yet made it to either Po10 or TOPS.

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