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  • jjimbojames
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    According to Twitter, she’s entered for 200m, Shot and hurdles at BUCS next week

  • jjimbojames
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    I don’t know enough about this specific case, but I’d guess in general terms that all of the wider issues at UKA have also created a backlog on dealing with cases in the last year

  • trickstat
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    I can understand it taking a while as both sides need to be given some time to put together their cases but I would hope that it would take less than a year.

  • drobbie
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    why does this crap take so long, thats been a year minichello has been suspended with no update

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  • treadwater1
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    RunUnlimited an Northern Irish athlete Anna McCauley just missed the qualifying standard for the CWG last week, she’s being coached by John Lane who was under Minichellos wing for most of his career, so some of the group appear to have gone in that direction, not sure about Emerson

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  • Ursus
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    This has to be a coaching issue - we haven’t got anyone who could have helped Dunderdale add less than 5 metres in a decade from teenage to peak years?? He’s far from alone - Pearson’s 74m PB was set at 19, ditto Pembroke’s 75m best while Harris’ 75m best was just after turning 20, Hunt’s 76m PB was set at 20, Parker’s 78m best at just 21 etc. Campbell was only 22 when he threw his 80m PB. There are obviously stories there particularly with Pembroke and it’s too early to say with the likes of Whiteaker and Hughes. But there’s been some decent talent around. Retention may have been an issue in some cases but improve the coaching so throwers keep improving and fulfilling their potential and that problem would reduce. Injuries can also be reduced by good coaching.

    Going down our all time list Hill’s best came at 28, Roberson at 31, Nieland 28, Bradstock at 25, Luckwell at 26, Mackenzie at 30. Much more in peak years and what I’d expect although Backley was a bit of an outlier with his NR coming just before he turned 23.

    80m these days will only just get you into the world top 60 and there are loads of countries represented at that level without any real legacy to draw on - last year’s 80m men included throwers from Trinidad, Moldova, Pakistan, Grenada, Spain, Egypt, Lithuania, Romania, Japan, China, Portugal, Venezuela, Turkey, Serbia and Belgium none of which are exactly Germany or Finland in legacy terms. It would be great to see our past greats involved more but that’s only a small part of the problem.

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  • RunUnlimited
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    LoveSprints1 A good question. We have no idea what Niamh's coaching set up is now since Minichiello's suspension (the same, for that matter, with Jade O'Dowda or Ireland's hugely talented Kate O'Conner).

  • RunUnlimited
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    Originally posted by Ursus View Post
    Joe Dunderdale has gone to the top of the spear rankings with 75.37. Unbelievably that it is the first time since 2017 that we’ve had 2 75m throwers in the same year.

    Dunderdale’s a perfect case in point. First threw 75 as a teenager in 2012. 76m PB dates back to 2014 and was by no means a freak throw. Looks to have competed pretty regularly over time bar 2020. Turns 30 at the end of the season. Why aren’t we talking about an 80m thrower here?
    Britain, apart from a relatively brief period during the late '70's into the late 90's when Backley, Hill, Roberson, Nieland, Bradstock, plus a couple of others, all came through on the scene at roughly the same time, has *never* been strong in the javelin.

    That's the reason we're not talking about Dunderdale being an 80m thrower, because there isn't a recent backdrop of success to pull from for the current crop of javelin exponents to use. Plus it seems that hardly any of the former British legends, like Backley, ever got involved in coaching once their careers were over. Roberson does coach, but he's only ever coached *2* athletes according to Po10; Goldie Sayers and injury-blighted Harry Hughes. Also Mick Hill too, but none of those that he's coached so far have ever reached an elite level.



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  • Ursus
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    Joe Dunderdale has gone to the top of the spear rankings with 75.37. Unbelievably that it is the first time since 2017 that we’ve had 2 75m throwers in the same year.

    Dunderdale’s a perfect case in point. First threw 75 as a teenager in 2012. 76m PB dates back to 2014 and was by no means a freak throw. Looks to have competed pretty regularly over time bar 2020. Turns 30 at the end of the season. Why aren’t we talking about an 80m thrower here?

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  • LoveSprints1
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    Who is coaching her now with AM's ongoing suspension? Niamh is an amazing talent but who knows if she'll be able to come back in time for this year, after no competition for two years.

  • RunUnlimited
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    CAML All true.

    I still think she'll score over 6400 points on her comeback.

    Call me an over-optimistic simpleton if you like, but I'm sticking to my prediction.

  • RunUnlimited
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    2:25:26 and was the first non-African runner to finish too. A top 10 finish in that kind of company is no mean feat from Charlotte Perdue. Great racing.

  • MysteryBrick
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    Tbh, I agree on this. Her completing a heptathlon should be the major milestone.

  • Occasional Hope
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    She’s lost a lot of time to injury.

  • CAML
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    Emerson's last comp was 20 months ago. Her last HJ and LJ were 3 years ago. There's no predicted trajectory from that.

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