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  • philipo
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    Comfortable with abuse??? You views are nuts, lovesprints.You and your ilk are screwing up sport really well.
    here.
    Is there a coach in any sport on this planet who hasn't bollocked his athlete for something or other they did wrong? If they did that's there job ..
    . Your PC, woke , equality , self important, " morally superior", abuse obsessed," inclusivity" and group think views, are of no help to any athletes as far as i am concerned. Having seen the stuff you write and wrote earlier its no surprise.The better athletes are grown up enough to take criticism.

    As for your sympathy for Coates , the poor darling who so called " inherited" all the problems with her pal, Symington , talk about misplaced.!!! Just drivel from beginning to end ,

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  • philipo
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    Originally posted by LoveSprints1 View Post

    Sorry philipo You really think it's acceptable, and that athletics would be better off if coaches are comfortable being "a bit nasty to their athletes when necessary"? It's called emotional and verbal abuse, is against the coaching code of conduct and has undermined and crushed many talented athletes. What planet do you live on?

    I don't think Coates was 'useless'. She inherited a poisoned chalice at a very difficult time. She was not supported and yes, made some errors but has also made great strides in terms of safeguarding, showing a level of respect to athletes and coaches and listening to the wder athletics community.

    The Olympic results were disappointing, because we won no golds, but we had no gold medal hopes bar relays. Even lovely Dina would have been hard pressed to medal even if fit.





    Stick your woke PC drivel wherever it fits.

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  • LoveSprints1
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    Originally posted by philipo View Post
    we all know its the coaches; always was , is and will be. No matter how far back you go, Percy Cerutty, Stampfl and dozens of others in the last 30 years , all over the world,were greatly effective, and until our coaches are respected, given their heads and get the remuneration they deserve, rather than the current mode of penalising coaches who are a bit nasty to their athletes when necessary, we won't improve in any significant way.
    That useless woman, Coates is gone; that's a bit of an improvement.!!
    Sorry philipo You really think it's acceptable, and that athletics would be better off if coaches are comfortable being "a bit nasty to their athletes when necessary"? It's called emotional and verbal abuse, is against the coaching code of conduct and has undermined and crushed many talented athletes. What planet do you live on?

    I don't think Coates was 'useless'. She inherited a poisoned chalice at a very difficult time. She was not supported and yes, made some errors but has also made great strides in terms of safeguarding, showing a level of respect to athletes and coaches and listening to the wder athletics community.

    The Olympic results were disappointing, because we won no golds, but we had no gold medal hopes bar relays. Even lovely Dina would have been hard pressed to medal even if fit.






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  • philipo
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    we all know its the coaches; always was , is and will be. No matter how far back you go, Percy Cerutty, Stampfl and dozens of others in the last 30 years , all over the world,were greatly effective, and until our coaches are respected, given their heads and get the remuneration they deserve, rather than the current mode of penalising coaches who are a bit nasty to their athletes when necessary, we won't improve in any significant way.
    That useless woman, Coates is gone; that's a bit of an improvement.!!

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  • marra
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    Originally posted by treadwater1 View Post
    It looks more like Symington was poached by BC rather than being pushed out going by the hastily put out press statement from UKA earlier today. Out of the frying pan and into the fire if you ask me, I can’t see how she will avoid the level of scrutiny she got at the helm of UKA, Symington being a cycling person may help with the transition though
    Time will tell, as with most things, but it is of course entirely plausible that she isn't trying to avoid scrutiny but simply wanted out of a sport that, frankly, to an outsider seems to be in a complete mess all over the show and move to an organisation that - generally speaking - appears well run, high achieving and where people seem to be appreciated more and criticised less...

    Clearly the Shane Sutton saga (amongst other things) shows that BC is not without its problems, but if I were in a position to work for one or the other, I know which I would choose right now!

    I hope I'm wrong but the idea that everything flawed with British athletics (as in the wider sport) right now will be fixed by the removal of these two people at UKA seems like very wishful thinking.

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  • treadwater1
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    It looks more like Symington was poached by BC rather than being pushed out going by the hastily put out press statement from UKA earlier today. Out of the frying pan and into the fire if you ask me, I can’t see how she will avoid the level of scrutiny she got at the helm of UKA, Symington being a cycling person may help with the transition though
    Last edited by treadwater1; 21-10-21, 22:04.

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  • philipo
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    Hurrah.. the failures are gone. What other nobodies are we going to see. Could there be some males appointed??

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  • carterhatch
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    another related article to this turn of events...

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ritish-cycling

    I like the fact that a proper athlete is mentioned as one possible candidate for CEO - Jack Buckner - who has presided over the rise of UK Swimming.

    How Ms. Symington can resign her post on Wednesday and 'start imminently' in a new role with British Cycling is a question i would ask ...

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  • carterhatch
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    Thought we should discuss this ...

    UK Athletics chief Joanna Coates and performance director Sara Symington resign



    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/59003613


    Seems that ever so blatant pair of 'PC' appointments went well...


    Indeed a couple of days ago I read this article, but didnt post any response on the forum, but thought the quotes from Ms. Symington less than encouraging...

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...sara-symington
    Last edited by carterhatch; 21-10-21, 21:19.

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  • trickstat
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    The back straight at Bedford is mainly grass banking where you could plausibly have quite a few more than 3 deep standing.

    Another plausible venue is Ashford. While it is not exactly central for the rest of the UK it is very accessible for the near parts of the Continent.

  • LuckySpikes
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    WACT regulations (PDF) - https://www.worldathletics.org/downl...%20Regulations

  • LuckySpikes
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    Originally posted by sidelined View Post
    Who organises those Continental Tour meetings? Is it NGBs, or independent operators?
    Sometimes they're the brainchild of independent groups/companies and sometimes they're initiated by the national federation (and then probrably contracted out). Even if they're the former, they probably have to get the go-ahead from the national federation before applying to be a Continental Tour meeting.

    For example, the 8 Continental Tour meetings gained by the USA this year were obviously initiated by their national federation, a) to provide more domestic opportunities in the run-up to Tokyo and b) to help promote the sport before the Eugene World Championships next year.

    Either way, there's a set of criteria that have to be met for each level of meeting, e.g., regarding facilities and how the meeting is run. I've linked to those regulations in the comments.

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  • sidelined
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    Who organises those Continental Tour meetings? Is it NGBs, or independent operators?

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  • LuckySpikes
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    Originally posted by Stew-Coach View Post
    We do have some good "stadiums" that could be used, Manchester, Gateshead, Crystal palace and even the Birmingham warm up track eventually to name a few with decent stands that IMO could hold domestically orientated CT events to help get our athletes racing each other (good quality) and get the points that keeps them in the mix for ranking derived places.
    Loughborough and Bedford too. What about Cardiff Met (I don't know much about that one) ? I've watched plenty of Bronze CT meetings where there's just one stand along the home straight. WA do specify a minimum capacity of 5000 for Bronze & Silver meetings but I'm sure that's been waived in a few cases (e.g., the Budapest GP meeting last month). Or maybe i'm underestimating how many you can fit in a stadium with a small grandstand and standing 2 or 3 deep all around the other parts?

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  • Stew-Coach
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    As I progress my own coaching pathway and my athletes develop and improve, we have to consider where to race not just for quality but also where can points be gained. Can easily put a decent quality race on in the UK anywhere, but without the license level that comes with a CT event they can easily be 70pts down on competitors in Europe and the USA.

    Its not a massive thing in the grand scheme of things but it is an issue with unfunded athletes who cant quickly/easily get on the circuit (even the NCAA circuit has better licensing and points than 99% of UK events). and actually due to the timeframe of the points system an athlete who perhaps was decent 2 years ago can still rank higher than an up and coming athlete due to the availability of races and points system.

    We do have some good "stadiums" that could be used, Manchester, Gateshead, Crystal palace and even the Birmingham warm up track eventually to name a few with decent stands that IMO could hold domestically orientated CT events to help get our athletes racing each other (good quality) and get the points that keeps them in the mix for ranking derived places.

    Does need to be addressed
    (i know the article and thread is aimed at the performance structure and coaching but I focus on me and mine)

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