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  • #16
    Originally posted by philipo View Post

    whats wrong with a bit of ranting; the measured stuff, so beloved of Brit moderation, doesn't seem to be going anywhere or achieving much right now..Or have i missed the issue. If its patently true that some senior British athletes collared the the great cheese( probably with holes therein) no doubt they had plenty to say.
    As for reading widely i spent more than fifty years reading newspapers etc and now i have given up on them.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Stew-Coach View Post
      But I have always found it strange/annoying the lack of Continental Tour meetings in the UK, not even a bronze! a nice easy way to get our athletes to compete domestically at a slightly higher than national level, little bit of cash and points to be gained.
      This is particularly helpful for those athletes who don't get that much good competition at a domestic level but aren't currently quite at the level to get into a Diamond League. They may be able to get into a Continental Tour meeting, but they may not be able do to too many of those for various reasons e.g. travel costs eroding prize money/fees, fitting around a part-time job they may do. This is true of a large number of athletes with the possible exception of those who specialise at 100, 200, 800 and 1500, where domestic competition is relatively strong.
      Last edited by trickstat; 15-09-21, 13:51.

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      • #18
        2021 continental tour meetings by country
        Country Count
        BEL 2
        CAN 1
        CRO 1
        CZE 2
        DEN 1
        ESP 2
        FIN 2
        FRA 4
        GER 3
        GRE 2
        HUN 3
        ITA 2
        JPN 2
        KAZ 1
        KEN 1
        NED 1
        NOR 1
        POL 3
        SUI 4
        SVK 1
        SWE 3
        USA 8
        Grand Total 50

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        • #19
          One of the reason for the lack of Continental Tour events compared to our European neighbours is that in many parts of Europe the local football stadium is also an athletics stadium. In the UK that is pretty much anathema to the football side of the fence with the argument (which has some validity to be fair) that that then puts the football fans too far from the action.

          In England, after West Ham/London Stadium, the next highest football club to have a track is Gateshead in the sixth tier (National League North) and they seldom attract more than a few hundred fans.

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          • #20
            As I progress my own coaching pathway and my athletes develop and improve, we have to consider where to race not just for quality but also where can points be gained. Can easily put a decent quality race on in the UK anywhere, but without the license level that comes with a CT event they can easily be 70pts down on competitors in Europe and the USA.

            Its not a massive thing in the grand scheme of things but it is an issue with unfunded athletes who cant quickly/easily get on the circuit (even the NCAA circuit has better licensing and points than 99% of UK events). and actually due to the timeframe of the points system an athlete who perhaps was decent 2 years ago can still rank higher than an up and coming athlete due to the availability of races and points system.

            We do have some good "stadiums" that could be used, Manchester, Gateshead, Crystal palace and even the Birmingham warm up track eventually to name a few with decent stands that IMO could hold domestically orientated CT events to help get our athletes racing each other (good quality) and get the points that keeps them in the mix for ranking derived places.

            Does need to be addressed
            (i know the article and thread is aimed at the performance structure and coaching but I focus on me and mine)

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Stew-Coach View Post
              We do have some good "stadiums" that could be used, Manchester, Gateshead, Crystal palace and even the Birmingham warm up track eventually to name a few with decent stands that IMO could hold domestically orientated CT events to help get our athletes racing each other (good quality) and get the points that keeps them in the mix for ranking derived places.
              Loughborough and Bedford too. What about Cardiff Met (I don't know much about that one) ? I've watched plenty of Bronze CT meetings where there's just one stand along the home straight. WA do specify a minimum capacity of 5000 for Bronze & Silver meetings but I'm sure that's been waived in a few cases (e.g., the Budapest GP meeting last month). Or maybe i'm underestimating how many you can fit in a stadium with a small grandstand and standing 2 or 3 deep all around the other parts?

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              • trickstat
                trickstat commented
                Editing a comment
                The back straight at Bedford is mainly grass banking where you could plausibly have quite a few more than 3 deep standing.

                Another plausible venue is Ashford. While it is not exactly central for the rest of the UK it is very accessible for the near parts of the Continent.

            • #22
              Who organises those Continental Tour meetings? Is it NGBs, or independent operators?

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              • #23
                Originally posted by sidelined View Post
                Who organises those Continental Tour meetings? Is it NGBs, or independent operators?
                Sometimes they're the brainchild of independent groups/companies and sometimes they're initiated by the national federation (and then probrably contracted out). Even if they're the former, they probably have to get the go-ahead from the national federation before applying to be a Continental Tour meeting.

                For example, the 8 Continental Tour meetings gained by the USA this year were obviously initiated by their national federation, a) to provide more domestic opportunities in the run-up to Tokyo and b) to help promote the sport before the Eugene World Championships next year.

                Either way, there's a set of criteria that have to be met for each level of meeting, e.g., regarding facilities and how the meeting is run. I've linked to those regulations in the comments.

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