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Originally posted by Stew-Coach View PostBut I have always found it strange/annoying the lack of Continental Tour meetings in the UK, not even a bronze! a nice easy way to get our athletes to compete domestically at a slightly higher than national level, little bit of cash and points to be gained.Last edited by trickstat; 15-09-21, 13:51.
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One of the reason for the lack of Continental Tour events compared to our European neighbours is that in many parts of Europe the local football stadium is also an athletics stadium. In the UK that is pretty much anathema to the football side of the fence with the argument (which has some validity to be fair) that that then puts the football fans too far from the action.
In England, after West Ham/London Stadium, the next highest football club to have a track is Gateshead in the sixth tier (National League North) and they seldom attract more than a few hundred fans.
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As I progress my own coaching pathway and my athletes develop and improve, we have to consider where to race not just for quality but also where can points be gained. Can easily put a decent quality race on in the UK anywhere, but without the license level that comes with a CT event they can easily be 70pts down on competitors in Europe and the USA.
Its not a massive thing in the grand scheme of things but it is an issue with unfunded athletes who cant quickly/easily get on the circuit (even the NCAA circuit has better licensing and points than 99% of UK events). and actually due to the timeframe of the points system an athlete who perhaps was decent 2 years ago can still rank higher than an up and coming athlete due to the availability of races and points system.
We do have some good "stadiums" that could be used, Manchester, Gateshead, Crystal palace and even the Birmingham warm up track eventually to name a few with decent stands that IMO could hold domestically orientated CT events to help get our athletes racing each other (good quality) and get the points that keeps them in the mix for ranking derived places.
Does need to be addressed
(i know the article and thread is aimed at the performance structure and coaching but I focus on me and mine)
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Originally posted by Stew-Coach View PostWe do have some good "stadiums" that could be used, Manchester, Gateshead, Crystal palace and even the Birmingham warm up track eventually to name a few with decent stands that IMO could hold domestically orientated CT events to help get our athletes racing each other (good quality) and get the points that keeps them in the mix for ranking derived places.
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Originally posted by sidelined View PostWho organises those Continental Tour meetings? Is it NGBs, or independent operators?
For example, the 8 Continental Tour meetings gained by the USA this year were obviously initiated by their national federation, a) to provide more domestic opportunities in the run-up to Tokyo and b) to help promote the sport before the Eugene World Championships next year.
Either way, there's a set of criteria that have to be met for each level of meeting, e.g., regarding facilities and how the meeting is run. I've linked to those regulations in the comments.
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Thought we should discuss this ...
UK Athletics chief Joanna Coates and performance director Sara Symington resign
Joanna Coates resigns as chief executive of UK Athletics while performance director Sara Symington has also stepped down.
Seems that ever so blatant pair of 'PC' appointments went well...
Indeed a couple of days ago I read this article, but didnt post any response on the forum, but thought the quotes from Ms. Symington less than encouraging...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...sara-symington
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another related article to this turn of events...
The UK Athletics chief executive, Jo Coates, has stepped down from her role while Sara Symington has left for British Cycling
I like the fact that a proper athlete is mentioned as one possible candidate for CEO - Jack Buckner - who has presided over the rise of UK Swimming.
How Ms. Symington can resign her post on Wednesday and 'start imminently' in a new role with British Cycling is a question i would ask ...
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It looks more like Symington was poached by BC rather than being pushed out going by the hastily put out press statement from UKA earlier today. Out of the frying pan and into the fire if you ask me, I can’t see how she will avoid the level of scrutiny she got at the helm of UKA, Symington being a cycling person may help with the transition thoughLast edited by treadwater1; 21-10-21, 22:04.
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Originally posted by treadwater1 View PostIt looks more like Symington was poached by BC rather than being pushed out going by the hastily put out press statement from UKA earlier today. Out of the frying pan and into the fire if you ask me, I can’t see how she will avoid the level of scrutiny she got at the helm of UKA, Symington being a cycling person may help with the transition though
Clearly the Shane Sutton saga (amongst other things) shows that BC is not without its problems, but if I were in a position to work for one or the other, I know which I would choose right now!
I hope I'm wrong but the idea that everything flawed with British athletics (as in the wider sport) right now will be fixed by the removal of these two people at UKA seems like very wishful thinking.
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we all know its the coaches; always was , is and will be. No matter how far back you go, Percy Cerutty, Stampfl and dozens of others in the last 30 years , all over the world,were greatly effective, and until our coaches are respected, given their heads and get the remuneration they deserve, rather than the current mode of penalising coaches who are a bit nasty to their athletes when necessary, we won't improve in any significant way.
That useless woman, Coates is gone; that's a bit of an improvement.!!
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Originally posted by philipo View Postwe all know it's the coaches; always was, is and will be. No matter how far back you go, Percy Cerutty, Stampfl and dozens of others in the last 30 years, all over the world, were greatly effective, and until our coaches are respected, given their heads and get the remuneration they deserve, rather than the current mode of penalising coaches who are a bit nasty to their athletes when necessary, we won't improve in any significant way.
That useless woman, Coates is gone; that's a bit of an improvement.!!
I don't think Coates was 'useless'. She inherited a poisoned chalice at a very difficult time. She was not supported and yes, made some errors but has also made great strides in terms of safeguarding, showing a level of respect to athletes and coaches and listening to the wider athletics community.
The Olympic results were disappointing because we won no golds, but we had no gold medal hopes bar relays. Even lovely Dina would have been hard-pressed to medal even if fit.
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