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'Project sub 3' - A proposal for men's 4 x400 relay

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  • carterhatch
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    Yes, Sprintfan, the article is now up on AW, and a great read. I even teared up a little, it's been 30 years, I hope some one young lad is reading, as Rogers Black puts it '“If you want to now find the next great British 400m runner, he will be between the ages of 18 and 21 and he thinks he’s a 100m runner.”

    A little disappointed that Jason Henderson wasn't able to weave in a mention of 'Project Sub3' into the article ...


    https://athleticsweekly.com/intervie...91-1039949052/
    Last edited by carterhatch; 31-08-21, 12:09.

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  • Sprintfan
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    Very interesting from the fab 4. Teamwork. Cameraderie and loads of hard fast work

  • Sprintfan
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    Include Prescod big lanky guy with good sprint potential across the board......21/23 split for 400?

  • carterhatch
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    I thought I would let you know that I had an email from Jason Henderson, Head of Digital at AW, saying,

    'FYI we’ve done an interview with the 1991 world 4x400m champions and they talk at length about ‘what it takes to find the next world-class British 400m runner’. It’ll be coming to AW soon on our website, YouTube and in the monthly magazine.'

    I am sure we all look forward to reading it.

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  • SprintRelayFan
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    Not sure how accurate it is but just seen someone tweet the official time ended up being 44.40

  • treadwater1
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    He will have been running with fire is his belly, that DQ at the British Champs cost him a place at the Olympics when he went into that weekend with the 2nd fastest SB

  • MysteryBrick
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    I think they had him marked down as a leg 1 historically, but this bodes well for a future on anchor.

  • carterhatch
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    Yes, clearly someone who enjoys chasing down an opponent in a relay. That would have been noted one hopes by the powers-to-be.

  • Occasional Hope
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    He made up a massive deficit on Okoro.

  • carterhatch
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    Having won a 200m earlier at the Manchester International, Alex Haydock-Wilson ran an unofficial 44.7 anchor leg split in a relay... Impressive day.
    Last edited by carterhatch; 18-08-21, 20:11.

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  • MysteryBrick
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    My general rule of thumb is that a male 800m runner has to be exceptional to work in an international 4x400m, and definitely be a clear 4/800m runner. Tony van Diepen was a notable example at the Olympics, but given he got silver at the 2021 European Indoors over 400m he could definitely be described as a specialist over 400m!

    Of the current British runners sub-1:46 Pattison and Burgin would be the two I would think could really do a job in a relay. Pattison ran 21.70 over 200m as an U17, so he has the speed! And Burgin... if he can get and remain fit (which being with Trevor Painter should surely improve) I shudder to think what he could run in a relay.

  • trickstat
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    Yes 47.11 at 16. I am pretty confident he would be sub 46 with a flying start right now.

  • jjimbojames
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    Ben used to run the 400m - he won the ESSA title a couple of years ago, so has good speed down there

  • carterhatch
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    Thanks Jogger, MysteryBrick... worth noting that Ben Pattison, mentioned on the longlist, ran a 800 PB in 1:45.7, still only 19 too. (courtesy of Ian Hodge Twitter 15/8) .

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  • MysteryBrick
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    I don't think it's anything personal against you. My view is that the best way to have a good 4x400m is to have good 400m runners - this year has been a bit of a nadir at the top level but there are some more positive signs at U20 and U23 level, so we just have to see what happens. Some more localised funding targeted at talented younger 400m/200m/400mh runners would probably be a positive step, but beyond that im not sure of useful specifics.
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