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  • #46
    Consistency is good….let’s hope he stays healthy and gets that breakthrough to the next level

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    • #47
      Also in Schifflange, Tommy Ramdhan 10.16 PB (+0.0), 2nd behind Julian Wagner (GER), 10.11.

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      • #48
        Both very encouraging performances.

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        • #49
          According to Ian Hodge Okoye has thrown 66.89 to beat the 2nd, 3rd and 4th placers from Tokyo.

          #doesmyheadin

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          • MysteryBrick
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            And people laughed at me calling him a medal chance...

        • #50
          Originally posted by Ursus View Post
          According to Ian Hodge Okoye has thrown 66.89 to beat the 2nd, 3rd and 4th placers from Tokyo.

          #doesmyheadin
          WHAT?!?!?

          Mother******* where was THAT form in qualifying for Tokyo?!?!

          Christ Almighty, Okoye is an annoying athlete to support!!

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          • #51
            Originally posted by Ursus View Post
            According to Ian Hodge Okoye has thrown 66.89 to beat the 2nd, 3rd and 4th placers from Tokyo.

            #doesmyheadin
            shame it does not matter much after the OG.

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            • #52
              Originally posted by RunUnlimited View Post

              WHAT?!?!?

              Mother******* where was THAT form in qualifying for Tokyo?!?!

              Christ Almighty, Okoye is an annoying athlete to support!!
              medal chance.??? 😋😋😋😋

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              • #53
                Originally posted by philipo View Post

                medal chance.??? 😋😋😋😋
                i see that the talented Mr Prescod came fifth at the Hungarian meet in 10.20. Not too scary??

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                • #54
                  Quite. The most frustrating thing is Okoye has so much talent and potential, and has yet to ever use it meaningfully. But anyone denying it exists is a moron.

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                  • #55
                    Okoye. Its not a linear progression to success. If he sticks with it now he'll make it

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                    • #56
                      Paris has released the names for their events

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                      • #57
                        Originally posted by Sprintfan View Post
                        Okoye. Its not a linear progression to success. If he sticks with it now he'll make it
                        Might, not will.

                        Looks like the US football stuff is in the rear view mirror. He’s competing a lot which suggests he’s got his appetite back, which is great.

                        He’s got all the physical tools and a 67 and a couple of 66s this year aren’t that far behind his best. BUT daft as it sounds for a nearly 30 year old he’s still learning the event in terms of consistency and how to handle a champs environment. His only globals have been the OG of 2012 which went well and Tokyo which…..didn’t. As far as I can see he’s not been to a Worlds, European or Commonwealth.

                        Physically he should probably still be OK for Paris. But between now and then I hope he seeks out as much top level exposure as he can and takes every opportunity to pull on a GB / English vest. His next objectives should be starting to mix it with, and beat, some of those ranked above him.

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                        • Sprintfan
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                          He probably pretty keen to be at the top of a tree sooner than later. If he does Law thats a 20-30 year stretch! Hopefully he'll get his ass out and about regularly challenging the top guys. And doing the work to beat them. Paris 24?

                      • #58
                        Originally posted by Ursus View Post

                        Might, not will.

                        Looks like the US football stuff is in the rear view mirror. He’s competing a lot which suggests he’s got his appetite back, which is great.

                        He’s got all the physical tools and a 67 and a couple of 66s this year aren’t that far behind his best. BUT daft as it sounds for a nearly 30 year old he’s still learning the event in terms of consistency and how to handle a champs environment. His only globals have been the OG of 2012 which went well and Tokyo which…..didn’t. As far as I can see he’s not been to a Worlds, European or Commonwealth.

                        Physically he should probably still be OK for Paris. But between now and then I hope he seeks out as much top level exposure as he can and takes every opportunity to pull on a GB / English vest. His next objectives should be starting to mix it with, and beat, some of those ranked above him.
                        You were almost correct there... Outside of Tokyo and London 2012, Okoye also competed for GB at the 2012 European Championships too, (where he qualified for the final and finished 11th.) Beyond that, he only competed for GB at age group level (winning the Euro U23's in 2011 aged 20, and coming 6th in his sole appearance in a World U20's, at Moncton in 2010 at 19.... BTW, it must be noted how rapid a rise it was for Okoye here. Just a year before in 2009, aged 18, his best registered discus throw was 50.70 m - his first time throwing over 50 meters. By 2010, he was throwing well over 60 and nearly broke the UK U20 record. A year later, he'd surpassed the UK U23 record and by 2012, had ownership of the overall UK record. An improvement of 18 meters in 3 and a half years!

                        (A bit of a depressing side note to all of this.... Looking at the PoT listings for our top U23's in discus, behind Okoye, there are 3 other men who have recorded distances beyond 63 meters in that age group, which is pretty impressive going internationally, let alone domestically. 2 of them were contemporaries of Okoye - Brett Morse and Zane Duquemin who were of similar age around the 2011-2012 years, while Nicolas Percy threw 63.38 m as a 22 year old in 2016.... Yet, only Brett Morse out of all three of them managed to improve on those distances as a senior (and in his case, only marginally, 66.08 to 66.84 PB ) and he hasn't competed since 2019. Duquemin has been stuck in the 60 - 62 meter range ever since, while Percy is floating between 60 - 63 meters.

                        Depressing stuff.

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                        • #59
                          An =PB from Neita in Lausanne. Good stuff.

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                          • #60
                            Yes.
                            And then she roasted SUI on the final relay leg.

                            Also a great run from Ellie Baker to win by over half a sec over a pretty solid field. That was probably a PB-level performance. Just have to factor in the wind, like with Warholm et al.

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