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  • philipo
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    i hear you. thks for clarity.

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  • LuckySpikes
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    Originally posted by philipo View Post
    What cut off date for contest entries submissions do you intend, Lucky. I assume that you will make it a day or so before the track and field commences..
    . I seem to recall on a previous contest for those athletes selected for doubles ,you allowed a reserve selection( top 4 ) in case of athletes changing their minds at the very last minute. will this be your position for Tokyo.?Example may be Hassan who likely wont make a decision till the last moment; entered for 3 events ,but says she will make a last minute choice.
    The closing time for entries for the contest is always 5 or 10 minutes before the first (athletics) event starts on Day 1. That allows the maximum amount of time for people to edit their entries in the light of late significant withdrawals.

    The only time I allowed an alternate choice was at Doha 2019 for the races Sifan Hassan was entered in, because she was p**sing about and leaving it to the last minute to decide which events she was doing. We'll have to repeat that if she does the same this time. Quite apart from messing us around , I don't agree with her tactics because, unless she does it in a timely fashion, she's denying an invitation to an athlete from another country to compete in the event she withdraws from.

    If there are no other other athletes who look likely to withdraw from an event after the contest closing time, I'd allow it only for Hassan's events (if needs be). Otherwise, it gets too complicated and messy.

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  • philipo
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    What cut off date for contest entries submissions do you intend, Lucky. I assume that you will make it a day or so before the track and field commences..
    . I seem to recall on a previous contest for those athletes selected for doubles ,you allowed a reserve selection( top 4 ) in case of athletes changing their minds at the very last minute. will this be your position for Tokyo.?Example may be Hassan who likely wont make a decision till the last moment; entered for 3 events ,but says she will make a last minute choice.

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  • JamieSLA
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    Top 6 and 24 if I had it my way Thanks for putting this on once again! I have partaken in many over the years under old usernames I can't remember the passwords to lol

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  • LoveSprints1
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    Loving the debate. Top 6 and 24 works for me and race walks should be included or additional to give them a platform.

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  • philipo
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    Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post

    Ooh, I disagree strongly! The toughest to predict would be the Men's 50km Walk because, like marathon runners, they only compete 2 or 3 times a year at that distance. The Women's 20km Walk might be the easiest. There's not quite the depth that there is in the Men's 20km Walk and I could easily name you the top 15 or 20 Women's 20km performers, most of them pretty consistent and racing over that distance 4 to 6 times a year (quite a lot of which are live streamed, although sometimes not very easy to follow due to the number/positioning of cameras).

    Anyway, the signs from the voting so far are that we'll be going with predicting the medalists in 24 events (no race walks!)
    great news !!

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  • philipo
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    Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post

    Ooh, I disagree strongly! The toughest to predict would be the Men's 50km Walk because, like marathon runners, they only compete 2 or 3 times a year at that distance. The Women's 20km Walk might be the easiest. There's not quite the depth that there is in the Men's 20km Walk and I could easily name you the top 15 or 20 Women's 20km performers, most of them pretty consistent and racing over that distance 4 to 6 times a year (quite a lot of which are live streamed, although sometimes not very easy to follow due to the number/positioning of cameras).

    Anyway, the signs from the voting so far are that we'll be going with predicting the medalists in 24 events (no race walks!)
    Lucky, you are clearly much more knowledgeable about the Walks, an element of athletics that always leaves me in considerable doubt.
    I always recall the italian who won one of the walks in Rome 1987 at the WC and the screen close up saw a clear example of breaking the rules and i just cannot get any pleasure from walks. Sorry.

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  • LuckySpikes
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    Originally posted by philipo View Post

    Not enamoured of having to predict the Walks medallists where there is a large numbers of walkers in the 3 events of whom . i know nothing .
    In my view, which may bother the walking fans, its practically impossible to use the relatively few events one sees, particularly in the womens 20K, to establish a consistent pattern of performers and, in addition, be aware which walkers represents the countries, such as Japan and China. I will close my eyes and have a stab at Tila, i suppose
    Ooh, I disagree strongly! The toughest to predict would be the Men's 50km Walk because, like marathon runners, they only compete 2 or 3 times a year at that distance. The Women's 20km Walk might be the easiest. There's not quite the depth that there is in the Men's 20km Walk and I could easily name you the top 15 or 20 Women's 20km performers, most of them pretty consistent and racing over that distance 4 to 6 times a year (quite a lot of which are live streamed, although sometimes not very easy to follow due to the number/positioning of cameras).

    Anyway, the signs from the voting so far are that we'll be going with predicting the medalists in 24 events (no race walks!)
    Last edited by LuckySpikes; 12-07-21, 19:53.

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  • oxfan
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    Agree with top 6

    And 2 sets of 24 events (medallists one set - winning mark in the other half)

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  • philipo
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    Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post

    Yes, this is a good point to recommend Top 6 over Top 8. The same applies for field event finals when the top 8 progress to the final 3 rounds. Some Top 6 predictions might be on a knife edge for 3 more rounds.
    Laps point is a strong one in so far as the the final becomes a significant choice .Actually makes the prediction tougher though.Lets do it for top 6 .Was thinking of McColgan who could be on the cusp of a top 6,7 or 8th place

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  • philipo
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    Originally posted by marra View Post
    Agree with Top 6 for the extra uncertainty principle that people have said.

    I'd personally do 48 events (I predict every medallist in every sport anyway ) but if more people prefer 24, I'd not be heartbroken.
    Not enamoured of having to predict the Walks medallists where there is a large numbers of walkers in the 3 events of whom . i know nothing .
    In my view, which may bother the walking fans, its practically impossible to use the relatively few events one sees, particularly in the womens 20K, to establish a consistent pattern of performers and, in addition, be aware which walkers represents the countries, such as Japan and China. I will close my eyes and have a stab at Tila, i suppose

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  • marra
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    Agree with Top 6 for the extra uncertainty principle that people have said.

    I'd personally do 48 events (I predict every medallist in every sport anyway ) but if more people prefer 24, I'd not be heartbroken.

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  • MysteryBrick
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    Yeah, I've come around to Top 6 for the above reasons.

  • Occasional Hope
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    The arguments for top 6 seem strongest.

    I'd go for 48 events for medallists' order but 24 for winning marks

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  • LuckySpikes
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    Originally posted by Laps View Post
    Many thanks for doing this again Lucky.

    Top 6 prolongs the jeopardy into the finals themselves in many events, rather than settling the points at the semi-finals stage.
    Top 8 is a more obvious choice and my immediate reaction was to go for that but on thinking about it your Top 6 is better because it will sustain more interest into more finals.
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    Yes, this is a good point to recommend Top 6 over Top 8. The same applies for field event finals when the top 8 progress to the final 3 rounds. Some Top 6 predictions might be on a knife edge for 3 more rounds.

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