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**Ursus** · 30-05-23, 13:27

Originally posted by carterhatch

Imani-Lara Lansiquot notes on her twitter 'Ahhhhhh!!! 11.03 & 11.06!! Two PBs in one day after a four year wait...excited for more, back to work.'

I have to say she looked very impressive in both runs and there was not a lot of turnaround time from the one to the next.

As AW notes on their twitter account

A stunning couple of runs from Imani sees her:
- Clock two personal bests
- World qualifying standard met
-Third on UK all-time list behind Dasher and Daryll Neita

I can't think of any other event where the top three from the UK All time list are currently active ... it does of course lead on to the next question about relays but I'll leave that for other threads ...

Well you could make a v tenuous case for m1500 as Farah hasn’t strictly retired from all athletics just yet.

wHJ and wHT could have been bar the premature retirements of Pooley and Hitchon. In the latter case we’d have had the top 6 active.

**Ursus** · 30-05-23, 14:20

Flip side - what’s the longest any event has gone without a new entrant into the top 3? I’ll put in an early bid for mJT which barring unforeseen circumstances will ‘celebrate’ its silver jubilee in July. Not even a single entry in the top 10 in the last decade.

Backley and Hill set their PBs in 92 and 93 with Roberson following in 98.

Feeble. Although precisely nothing to do with sprints. Throwing knotweed!

**philipo** · 30-05-23, 15:16

Originally posted by Ursus

Flip side - what’s the longest any event has gone without a new entrant into the top 3? I’ll put in an early bid for mJT which barring unforeseen circumstances will ‘celebrate’ its silver jubilee in July. Not even a single entry in the top 10 in the last decade.

Backley and Hill set their PBs in 92 and 93 with Roberson following in 98.

Feeble. Although precisely nothing to do with sprints. Throwing knotweed!

What about the mens 3K steeplechase
Record is I think 8 mins 7 secs and bits ,from 1988. Third best is about 8 mins 15??

**Ursus** · 30-05-23, 20:18

Originally posted by philipo

What about the mens 3K steeplechase
Record is I think 8 mins 7 secs and bits ,from 1988. Third best is about 8 mins 15??

In depth of longevity steeple takes it. But at the top end the the top 5 of the wSP just shades it - all are at least 33 years old….88, 84, 84, 90 & 83.

**carterhatch** · 07-06-23, 08:57

Daryll Neita improves her 200m PB from 22.61 to 22.23 (0.8) as she wins in style at the Irena Szewinska Memorial in Bydgoszcz. [AW twitter]

Is this the UK women’s outdoor performance of the season so far? Ms. Neita is certainly producing impressive times in 100/200, the question now is can she deliver when the pressure is on…

As others have noted this takes her to third on the ‘All Time’ list.

There are 7 of this top 10 currently ‘active’ which is a very high ratio*. Delve a little deeper though and it is actually, one could argue, a mixed bag of, in addition to maximum potential achieved, some what-could-have-beens and may-never-agains…

I am certain we will see DASHER run more 200s, but she will need to break the British record to make podium this summer and in Paris. Might Ms. Neita be tempted to ‘double-up’, there seems little domestic challenge this year at 200 beyond Dina, so would be doing the selectors a favour to fill some empty berth.

Jodie Williams’ move to 400 suggests her 200 PB is unlikely to change and there is a large degree of ‘what-could have been’, I fear, when it comes to Desiree Henry’s career, though I sincerely hope she finds a vehicle deserving of her talents & personality. .

Amy Hunt, ufff, that glorious run for her PB may never be bettered, but as someone mentioned on the forum, perhaps we have to wait until university is behind her, and injury free with 400s beckoning.

I read on another thread that Beth Dobbin may be injured, and she might well be a case of having maxed out her potential in 200, with the proposed move to 400 never materialising as events took over. But she had her moment, made the Olympics and can dine out on that for the rest of her life.

Bianca Williams has done marvellous to return after becoming a mother and seems someone who just enjoys running, be it indoors/outdoors, 60/100/200, Olympic venues or local track, someone who can quietly inspire others…

Though quite where the next sub-23 runner [let alone All Time top 10] is coming from is not obvious ...

* for comparison 100/there are 5, 400/2, 800/5. 1500/5, 100h/1, 400h/4-ish

**carterhatch** · 16-06-23, 08:36

Blimey... three GB women in the one DL race and two of them run sub11 - and barely an eyebrow raised by the forum... How times change!

Of course this naturally leads onto relay discussions but I'll leave that for another time.

**larkim** · 16-06-23, 10:47

I suppose the issue last night is that the three of them looked like also-rans in the context of the race, and with plenty of the top tier missing from the race too. 11th and 12th on the top lists for the year suggests you might not be making a final, let alone getting on a podium. It's all well and good suggesting there's improvements to come, but the same could well be true of most of the others. DAS looks beaten in her eyes, keeps saying she expected to be a bit faster.
Happy to be proven wrong!

**Ursus** · 16-06-23, 11:13

Originally posted by larkim

I suppose the issue last night is that the three of them looked like also-rans in the context of the race, and with plenty of the top tier missing from the race too. 11th and 12th on the top lists for the year suggests you might not be making a final, let alone getting on a podium. It's all well and good suggesting there's improvements to come, but the same could well be true of most of the others. DAS looks beaten in her eyes, keeps saying she expected to be a bit faster.
Happy to be proven wrong!

Exactly - joint 12th and joint 14th now but one saving grace is that there are 6 Americans ahead of both and another tied with Dasher.

On the track though what used to be wow landmarks no longer are due to faster tracks, super spikes and better training methods. 11.00 is good international standard, but no longer landmark - 17 women have already gone under that this year. 10.8 is perhaps wow territory now.

In Oslo 8 men ran sub 3.30 for the 1500m. Within 0.11 of a second of 10 running faster in a single race than triple world record breaker Steve Ovett ever did.

Guess you call it 4 minute mile syndrome.

**MR_ME** · 16-06-23, 11:37

I see that HAA has accepted a place at the UK trials. I assumed now that he's a gladiator that his athletics days would be over.

**philipo** · 16-06-23, 12:48

Originally posted by larkim

I suppose the issue last night is that the three of them looked like also-rans in the context of the race, and with plenty of the top tier missing from the race too. 11th and 12th on the top lists for the year suggests you might not be making a final, let alone getting on a podium. It's all well and good suggesting there's improvements to come, but the same could well be true of most of the others. DAS looks beaten in her eyes, keeps saying she expected to be a bit faster.
Happy to be proven wrong!

Well noted. This obsession with PBs may be de rigueur these days but it's all about competition. Coming nowhere in a race and shouting from the hills about how fabulous you are with a pb..
stick it . Sounds like Letsrun😂Furthermore the amazing things we see right now is also due to the super shoes and in the middle and long distances with better pacers and wavelights.

**carterhatch** · 25-06-23, 11:15

We have seen in recent days two remarkable times set in the m100. Both have warranted their own dedicated threads on AW.

Zarnel Hughes sets a new national record [9.83] and rekindles hopes that he can podium at Worlds.
While Eugene Amo-Dadzie [9.93] surprises everybody with his time but almost inevitably attracts a certain level of scepticism.

In terms of UK ‘All Time’ top ten, the notion of ‘active’ I use advisedly.

I have determined there are 5 athletes currently ‘active’ in the list, which includes the return to competition of CJ Ujah, but not the veteran Dwain Chambers, perhaps unfairly, so it could be 6. Gemili set his sub10 time 8 years ago and even as someone who appreciates his cheerful disposition, would not anticipate a return to such times, though happy to be proved wrong. Reece Prescod, however, has all the natural talent but, for reasons often discussed, has yet to convince that he can deliver when it matters.

Interesting to note that outside this 'All Time' top 10, there are only another 8 British athletes who have registered a sub10 time and of these only one [NMB] is wind legal. Of the other 7, six might be regarded as ‘active’, though at very different stages of their career.

A trio of fit, healthy, genuine sub10 sprinters representing the UK, all with chances of making the final in Budapest, would be welcome to this FW but I suspect, although a strong case on paper, in reality I have to prepare for disappointment.

**philipo** · 26-06-23, 00:01

Originally posted by carterhatch

We have seen in recent days two remarkable times set in the m100. Both have warranted their own dedicated threads on AW.

Zarnel Hughes sets a new national record [9.83] and rekindles hopes that he can podium at Worlds.
While Eugene Amo-Dadzie [9.93] surprises everybody with his time but almost inevitably attracts a certain level of scepticism.

In terms of UK ‘All Time’ top ten, the notion of ‘active’ I use advisedly.

I have determined there are 5 athletes currently ‘active’ in the list, which includes the return to competition of CJ Ujah, but not the veteran Dwain Chambers, perhaps unfairly, so it could be 6. Gemili set his sub10 time 8 years ago and even as someone who appreciates his cheerful disposition, would not anticipate a return to such times, though happy to be proved wrong. Reece Prescod, however, has all the natural talent but, for reasons often discussed, has yet to convince that he can deliver when it matters.

Interesting to note that outside this 'All Time' top 10, there are only another 8 British athletes who have registered a sub10 time and of these only one [NMB] is wind legal. Of the other 7, six might be regarded as ‘active’, though at very different stages of their career.

A trio of fit, healthy, genuine sub10 sprinters representing the UK, all with chances of making the final in Budapest, would be welcome to this FW but I suspect, although a strong case on paper, in reality I have to prepare for disappointment.

Yes prepare for disappointment. 3 guys with chances? of making the final. Wow !

**carterhatch** · 25-08-23, 08:45

Originally posted by Christy93

Amazing to see Bianca PB after 9 years - Superb.

This great peformance by Bianca Williams should remind us that athletics is not ALL about gold medals, podium finishes or Global finals. It is also about achieving personal goals, overcoming challenges to perform at your very best and enjoying the experience.

I commented in an earlier post that Bianca Williams has turned out for mutliple local club races, team events and made herself available for relays. Yet, while other more famous athletics mums get the credit they deserve, in the build up to the 200m semifinals she hardly got a mention from Gabby et al.

The general public may only recognise her name from the rather unsavoury incident back in 2020, but she conducts herself with dignity on the subject. She was nominated captain of Team GB at the last iteration of the European Team Cup running both 100 & 200 where others didn't bother to include it in their schedule.

What was most telling was her post race interivew. Bianca had performed in a 'loaded' semi but said something like, 'I dont even care I didn't make the final'. Such was her joy to achieve a PB. This attitude should be part of a show reel for other athletes, some here at Budapest, who have underperformed, or others who have forgotten how to enjoy these moments.

She now ranks fifth on the UK all-time list at 200m with this new PB best of 22.45 secs. She mentioned in the post race interview that she intends to run some 400s, to improve her 200 still further.

I hope that she finds her way into the starting line-up of a 4x100 quartet that makes a global final either here or Paris and if the stars align, take gold... it's not why Bianca competes in athletics, but it would be recongition for a career sustained for all the right reasons.

Bianca deserves far more credit than she receives and I don't just say this as being a fellow Enfield-born sprinter

**carterhatch** · 05-09-23, 09:27

i wanted to note for posterity the fact that we now have three Sub 11 second female sprinters. A great achievement that I am sure is welcomed by all.

I started this thread just over two years ago with this sentence in the opening paragraph:

'I always get the impression that Daryl Neita looked on enviously at DASHER’s spotlight, but this season she has started to challenge that 11-second barrier and if all goes well will become only the second Brit to go under this benchmark. Meanwhile her contemporary Imani Lansiquot will also aim to rewrite her PB.'

It did go well and Daryl Neita soon joined the sub11 club but also this season has found great form in the 200 which I hope gives her confidence to tackle this distance with full commitment.

More surprising, yet just as welcome, has been the news of Imani Lansiquot also running a sub11 second time with a new PB of 10.99. She has clearly moved on from that disappointing DQ at the World's and may well use it as inspiration going forward.

As a forum poster noted, we are now perhaps one great sprinter away from a 'scarily good' 4x100 - I am sure the younger pretenders will be suitably inspired and the 'older' cohort looking eagerly towards Paris 2024 as there is a great chance for a relay podium finish.

Well done Ladies!

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