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    Last night the first images emerged of what the redeveloped stadium will look like come 2022

    https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/news/a...Birmingham2022


  • #2
    I’m very impressed by the design, the roof looks very elegant. I notice a few changes from the original proposals. The stadium capacity will now be 18,000 after the CWG. Looks like the pole vault area has been moved from outside the existing stand to the infield, and the long jump pits have been reorganised

    Another story emerged yesterday, it looks like UKA are considering winding down use of the Olympic Stadium, once the Birmingham stadium is up and running, a travesty if it comes to fruition

    https://www.insidethegames.biz/artic...games-unveiled


    Last edited by treadwater1; 22-06-19, 10:31.

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    • #3
      Athletics time in the Olympic Stadium was numbered from the moment West Ham United signed as anchor tenant in 2013.
      The 2017 World Championships only delayed the inevitable.

      There just isn't sufficient Athletics use of the stadium to make the annual switching from Football mode to Athletics mode and back again worthwhile.
      There never was going to be sufficient use. Something like 20,000 seats are rebuilt each July and removed again next May/June at great cost. What is called retractable seating is nothing of the sort.
      The original structure of the stadium always made that a non-starter.

      So Athletics was always likely to be made an 'offer' by the owners and West Ham to clear out.
      When the Commonwealth Games went to Birmingham that was the clincher imo.

      It is a shame because I go and watch Athletics at the stadium as often as I can. I attended lots of the Olympic sessions, Paralympics, World Championships and the DL meeting every year, and love the place. But it actually makes little sense to hang on to it when the redeveloped Alexandra Stadium becomes available.

      Athletics should play hard to get and screw as much money as it can out of football and the owners. Whatever, to West Ham it will be small change.
      Last edited by Laps; 22-06-19, 18:29.

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      • #4
        Birmingham looks good. Only issue is that they’ve struggled to get crowds there in the past, will that change? In the interests of fairness to all I like the idea of a Midlands base, but I’d wager that a redeveloped Palace would draw greater crowds / use.

        Apart from the financial aspect, I don’t give two hoots about athletics moving from the Olympic stadium. Unless you have premium tickets the size makes it a dreadful place to watch athletics.

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        • #5
          I can live with the track going from the Olympic Stadium if it is coupled with an improved facility somewhere in Greater London. Either an improvement to an existing track or a new one. I don't necessarily mean a Diamond League level venue but somewhere that could host something like a National age-group Champs or a South of England Champs.

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          • #6
            There's precedent for this sort of move to facilities more fitting for the purposes of athletics... Look at the 80,000 seater Stade de France in Paris that hosted the 1998 World Cup final. It had an athletics track around the pitch and was the home of the Paris Golden League/Diamond League events for years. But dwindling attendances and growing complaints from fans of other sports using the same stadium, forced the authorities to consider their options and eventually moved the Diamond League to a smaller (20,000 seats) stadium which had an athletics track (Paris FC's home which has hosted the 1994 and 2002 IAAF Grand Prix Finals), while the track in the Stade de France was ripped up. And I think it's worked out pretty well for all parties in the long run, as the Paris Diamond League meeting in the new home have been pretty much sell outs in the 3 years they've gone to this venue and some memorable performances have occurred there.

            If the Olympic Stadium is to get fully turned over to football, then fair enough. As long as the powers that be have a working plan for upgrading existing athletics facilities in the London area (Crystal Palace being the obvious example, but there are other alternatives), then I don't have a problem if UKA want to move the big event athletics to the refurbished Alexander Stadium.
            Last edited by RunUnlimited; 27-06-19, 00:13.

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            • #7
              Meanwhile, the British Champs / Trials is returning to Manchester. How about this for a quote: "British Athletics major events director Cherry Alexander says: “It’s brilliant to be returning to Manchester with our British Championships from 2020. The sport has enjoyed some iconic moments at the facility and we have wonderful memories of our athletes warming up for their Commonwealth Games races on that very track."

              Personally I remember those years when the champs were held in Manchester as the nadir of the sport in the UK.

              I love watching athletics at the Olympic Stadium and will be sad to see it go. I don't think we should underestimate the impact of holding major champs and this will presumably reduce our chances of getting a Worlds again.

              Hope the British Masters returns to Birmingham after it's refurbished - an incentive to keep training for a few more years!

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              • #8
                I’m pretty sure the Paris stadium (St Denis) has kept the track but they’re just not using it at the moment, it will host the athletics at the 2024 Olympics. I think retaining the Olympic Stadium is worth pursuing, from BAs perspective and the governments. If they are seriously considering hosting the multi sport euros in 2026, retaining it will be crucial. I would rather see the WCs return to London, sorry but Birmingham doesn’t have that wow factor for me

                I understand it’s expensive to move the seating every year but it’s the same all over the world, athletics stadia struggle to break even when it comes to running costs, so they have to be subsidised in some way. I think West Ham can lump it, they moved into a brand new stadium virtually for free and pay a pittance in ground rent. You don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by treadwater1 View Post
                  I’m pretty sure the Paris stadium (St Denis) has kept the track but they’re just not using it at the moment, it will host the athletics at the 2024 Olympics. I think retaining the Olympic Stadium is worth pursuing, from BAs perspective and the governments. If they are seriously considering hosting the multi sport euros in 2026, retaining it will be crucial. I would rather see the WCs return to London, sorry but Birmingham doesn’t have that wow factor for me

                  I understand it’s expensive to move the seating every year but it’s the same all over the world, athletics stadia struggle to break even when it comes to running costs, so they have to be subsidised in some way. I think West Ham can lump it, they moved into a brand new stadium virtually for free and pay a pittance in ground rent. You don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone
                  Ahh, thanks for correcting me about the track at the Stade de France Treadwater.

                  And I agree with your feelings about what the government should do with the stadium and the West Ham situation.

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