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  • LuckySpikes
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    Originally posted by treadwater1 View Post
    I understand some will be unhappy with aspects of Muir's race, but 3.56 in June is exception, her SB last term was 3.58. After that slow first 700 she must have gone through the final 800 quicker than she did in her NR run. She recovered from the stumble pretty well, it was just her failure to cover Dibabas surge at 800 that cost her later in the race. She had the better finishing speed over the last 50
    In her NR run she covered the last 800 in 2:02.3 (62.3 / 60.0). In Rome it was 2:03.5 (63.2 / 60.3).

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  • philipo
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    i think we sjould all bear in mind that the WC is a different ball game to DL meets At this stage of the season we do not know the condition of other athletes like Houlihan and even Simpson if the pace is WC pace with no pacemakers. Muir must have exactly the right tactics in Doha to medal and I still wonder about that aspect of her performances.

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  • RunUnlimited
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    Ahh yes, forgot about Sifan Hassan, she was indeed behind Dibaba in the world record run. And you are also correct to point out that Hassan's and Rowbury's runs, if you take out the drug cheats, are the only athletes to run 3:56 in a 1500m since the year 2000 and *not* win the race they were in. Now Muir's joined that club. (Oh, an Faith Kipyegon too!)
    Last edited by RunUnlimited; 09-06-19, 17:41.

  • hemlock
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    Wasn't Hassan 2nd to Dibaba on the day she set the world record in Monaco? Rowbury was 3rd.
    Cheats apart, they might have been the only ones ever to have run 3.56 without winning the race. Until now.

    But anyway I agree. The 1500 in Rome was one of the great races, and would have been even better but for Muir's early stumble.
    Dibaba, the greatest 1500m runner ever (assuming she was clean when she did the WR), is getting back to her best form;
    and this time Muir is right there with her.
    Absolutely awesome.

  • RunUnlimited
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    Originally posted by treadwater1 View Post
    I’m surprised no one has mentioned Norman, I thought that was the run of the night after Lyles dominance last year. He must have gone through 100 in 9.90, this from a 43.45 400 man, he may not take Bolts WRs but he could become the greatest all round sprinter in history if you combine his 100, 200 and 400 times

    I understand some will be unhappy with aspects of Muir's race, but 3.56 in June is exception, her SB last term was 3.58. After that slow first 700 she must have gone through the final 800 quicker than she did in her NR run. She recovered from the stumble pretty well, it was just her failure to cover Dibabas surge at 800 that cost her later in the race. She had the better finishing speed over the last 50

    Very good run by Pozzi, looks like he is back to his 2017 form
    To put that time from Muir into some context, of the 7 athletes who ran quicker times than Muir's run in Rome since the year 2000, 3 of them have turned out to be drugs cheats (Sureyya Ayhan-Kop, Yuliya Chizhenko, Yelena Soboleva) and a 4th (Abeba Aregawi) has some questions over her past results. Therefore, only Dibaba, Yusuf Jamal, Rowbury and Kipyegon are rightfully ahead of Muir on times, and only Dibaba herself and Kipyegon are still active runners.

    Muir is a real factor heading into Doha.

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  • treadwater1
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    I’m surprised no one has mentioned Norman, I thought that was the run of the night after Lyles dominance last year. He must have gone through 100 in 9.90, this from a 43.45 400 man, he may not take Bolts WRs but he could become the greatest all round sprinter in history if you combine his 100, 200 and 400 times

    I understand some will be unhappy with aspects of Muir's race, but 3.56 in June is exception, her SB last term was 3.58. After that slow first 700 she must have gone through the final 800 quicker than she did in her NR run. She recovered from the stumble pretty well, it was just her failure to cover Dibabas surge at 800 that cost her later in the race. She had the better finishing speed over the last 50

    Very good run by Pozzi, looks like he is back to his 2017 form
    Last edited by treadwater1; 09-06-19, 14:30.

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  • larkim
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    That's the first time I've really noticed her get into a tussle like that, am I using rose tinted glasses with my memories of her races? She is normally quite good at getting up to the front at the very least, isn't she? The big take away for me is that her finishing speed is much better - she could always wind it up at about 800m and run hard to home, but I suspect they are working on raw speed to battle people like Dibaba, and it seems to be working out just fine!

  • RunUnlimited
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    Originally posted by larkim View Post
    I think second last night is a good outcome for DAS in the wider picture of keeping her grounded throughout the season, though given how far ahead she was at about 60m I didn't expect to see her reeled in that effectively given how strongly she has finished the 200s this season. But maybe I don't "get" sprinting!

    I thought Muir was outstanding though, to be in a position where Dibaba was really unable to pull away from her after that very dodgy start, will both worry Dibaba and give Muir confidence.
    Give Muir that same race with a clean start and she would have edged past Dibaba on the home straight. She was closing on her up until the line... Had she been only a couple of meters down on Dibaba, rather than five or six, then she wins that.

    Heading to Doha, that will be a very good jolt of confidence for Muir indeed.

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  • larkim
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    I think second last night is a good outcome for DAS in the wider picture of keeping her grounded throughout the season, though given how far ahead she was at about 60m I didn't expect to see her reeled in that effectively given how strongly she has finished the 200s this season. But maybe I don't "get" sprinting!

    I thought Muir was outstanding though, to be in a position where Dibaba was really unable to pull away from her after that very dodgy start, will both worry Dibaba and give Muir confidence.

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  • RunUnlimited
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    Originally posted by Ursus View Post
    21.97 PB from Bukowiecki. Sometimes easy to forget that he’s only 22.

    Puts him 30th on the all time list. 14 of the 28 men who have gone 22+ are American.
    He's also pretty much the youngest member of that top 30 list. The only shot putter there of a similar age is the one he shares the 30th spot with, Jannus Roberts of South Africa, who was also 22 when he threw it 21.97 in 2001.

    Bukowiecki is going to be a super star in the shot... I'll be *very* surprised if he doesn't go beyond 22 meters before the end of the season.

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  • Ursus
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    21.97 PB from Bukowiecki. Sometimes easy to forget that he’s only 22.

    Puts him 30th on the all time list. 14 of the 28 men who have gone 22+ are American.

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  • RunUnlimited
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    Forgot to mention Zak Seddon (mainly because I'd switched over to watch something else by then, because I missed Seddon was in the line up!) Well done from him... That 26 year gap also coincides with the last British 3000m steeplechaser running sub 8:20, which was done by Tom Hanlon at the Monaco meeting (8:19.99).

    Also we almost missed Andrew Butchart's 13:09.33 season's best in that 5000m race won by Bekele.

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  • LuckySpikes
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    Yes, I knew it had been a long time since any British man had run as fast as Zak Seddon's 8:21.28. But I didn't realise how long! It's been 26 years since a British man ran faster than that.

    Let's just hope Zak doesn't go the way of Rob Mullett who ran 8:22 in 2016 and hasn't done much since.

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  • LuckySpikes
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    Great time for Our Laura. Sub-45 I think for her last 300 off a speedy pace. Bodes very well for the rest of the season. I wonder if she could have won tonight had she not been bumped back after 150m? She probably lost half a second there and had to work harder than she'd like to before joining Dibaba & Tsegay with 800 to go, especially given that the first lap was very fast.

    RunUnlimited has already mentioned Debues-Stafford's PB. A shout out too for Elinor Purrier with a 5+ second PB, 4:02.34. She's a former (2018) NCAA Indoor Mile champion. Being quite stocky she doesn't look she should be a fast mid-d runner but she is.

    Wonder if the super-close finish in the 5000 was fixed to try & show the IAAF the error of their ways? Just kidding. 12:53 is super-fast at this time of the season though.

    5 European men set PBs of 8:24 or better in that Steeple, headed by Fernando Carro, 8:15.73, and including Zak Seddon taking 5 seconds off his PB with 8:21.28. Well done! The fastest time by a British man since ... ? I'm going to research that and get back to you.
    Like that women's 5000 in Stockholm it probably helped them all that they were somewhat in contact with the leaders late into the race due to the leaders slowing in the 2nd kilometre.
    Last edited by LuckySpikes; 06-06-19, 22:28.

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  • RunUnlimited
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    Originally posted by carterhatch View Post
    A BBC article on Pozzi

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/48533589

    "I was racing under a much higher workload and was relatively fatigued in Shanghai," he says of his sixth-place finish in last month's Diamond League meeting.

    "My time was competitive but whenever you make big changes, it is going to take several races for it to become habitual.
    Well, looks like Pozzi knew what he was talking about then! A very good run from him here in the 110m hurdles, just missing out to former world champion Shubenkov over the last couple of hurdles and getting edged out, 13.26 to 13.28, a season's best for both hurdlers. And Pozzi took the scalps of Olympic medalist Ortega who came dead last, and Euro Indoor champion Trajkovic who came 5th.

    Been a pretty good night for the Brits so far (apart from NMB, who came 7th in an electric 200m).

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