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  • Ursus
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    Introducing the not remotely scientific Ursus Career Coefficient…..

    There are peaks and troughs and tons of exceptions, but I generally think on the basis that a top class sportsman can have a roughly 10 year career at the top level. So the likes of Hodgkinson may be done and dusted by 30 having had a great career while Christie who didn’t really start seriously until his mid 20s carried on much longer. Training ages and all that.

    You’ve also got the likes of Mondo and Jakob tearing things up. There have always been precocious talents in this sport, but it feels like we’re moving into a slightly different era. The fearlessness that the youngsters bring is great to watch.

    McLaughlin has set a WR at 22 and even the likes of Warholm and Rojas have set WRs at 25 which you might ordinarily think is slightly before their real peak years.

    As Mystery says as long as the youngsters are handled correctly, let them loose!

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  • MysteryBrick
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    Originally posted by Ursus View Post
    When you look at the likes of Hodgkinson, Mu and the incredible Raducanu in the tennis you have to wonder whether we’re generally too cautious with young talent (and what the point of u23 is......).

    Of course there are loads of considerations around developing young athletes and we have no idea how long their careers will be. But I’m generally of the mindset that if they’re good enough they’re old enough.
    I think as long as they are handled correctly that is absolutely correct.

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  • Grassmarket
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    Originally posted by Ursus View Post
    When you look at the likes of Hodgkinson, Mu and the incredible Raducanu in the tennis you have to wonder whether we’re generally too cautious with young talent (and what the point of u23 is......).

    Of course there are loads of considerations around developing young athletes and we have no idea how long their careers will be. But I’m generally of the mindset that if they’re good enough they’re old enough.
    The whole point about Hodgkinson & Raducanu is that they ARE exceptional & others are going to take the Linford Christie/Kelly Holmes route. But I agree with you and Paula Radcliffe that if they are not challenging at age 22 they’re probably going to be Commonwealth/European level at best. But we need those as well, of course.

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  • Ursus
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    When you look at the likes of Hodgkinson, Mu and the incredible Raducanu in the tennis you have to wonder whether we’re generally too cautious with young talent (and what the point of u23 is......).

    Of course there are loads of considerations around developing young athletes and we have no idea how long their careers will be. But I’m generally of the mindset that if they’re good enough they’re old enough.

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  • treadwater1
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    That was an extremely entertaining night of athletics, they should stick with this format for future DL finals.

    There was barely a breath of air in that stadium and Allman almost threw 70m. The winning distance in the mens, the winning distance in the men’s was 66mid. Allman has been one of the breakthrough performers of the year.

    Hodgkinson has been superb all year and what a way to finish the season off. A better race tonight than in Brussels where she gave Goule too much of a head start on the back straight. She mentioned to AW that she’d like to be involved in the 4x4, the full interview to appear in next month’s AW according to their Twitter page.

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  • Grassmarket
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    She’ll be gutted at having missed the U-20s in Tallinn, though.

  • LuckySpikes
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    Great meeting tonight! All a bit breathless with so much to pack in to 3 hours.

    Originally posted by Ursus View Post
    ...

    And what a year Hodgkinson has had!
    In the space of just over 7 months ...
    • World U20 Indoor Record
    • European Indoor Champion
    • Olympic Silver medalist
    • British Record
    • Diamond League Champion
    Not bad for a teenager!

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  • Ursus
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    Originally posted by Grassmarket View Post
    Great night for our 100m ladies!
    Very encouraging for the knotweed.

    And what a year Hodgkinson has had!

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  • Grassmarket
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    That’s been a great evening: really a step back to the 1980s for Zurich, which had lost its place as the world best meet.

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  • Grassmarket
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    Keeley has done all our 800m runners a big huge favour tonight!

    12th ever British DL winner.
    Last edited by Grassmarket; 09-09-21, 20:13.

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  • Grassmarket
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    Originally posted by drobbie View Post

    dina back to something approaching her best, neita edging closer to true world class
    Good morale booster for the winter: I think she was a bit in danger of being left high-and-dry by all the 10:70s & better.

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  • drobbie
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    Originally posted by Grassmarket View Post
    Great night for our 100m ladies!
    dina back to something approaching her best, neita edging closer to true world class

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  • Grassmarket
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    Great night for our 100m ladies!

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  • Grassmarket
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    Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post
    Good fields for the Great North Run on Sunday - https://athleticsweekly.com/event-ne...un-1039949321/

    A fair bit deeper than usual it seems.
    Not Mo Farah’s annual testimonial race as it has been for the last decade, then.

    Siderova makes all the other PV women look a bit ordinary.
    Last edited by Grassmarket; 09-09-21, 18:33.

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  • Laps
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    As good as it gets that Hj. Three fighting it out at 2.05m. The champion showing she’s still top dog.
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