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  • Hodgkinson is doing Brussels and Zurich, that wildcard would come in handy for next year

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    • Originally posted by trevorp View Post

      Did anyone watch it? I see Rowden DNF.
      He was right up behind the pacemaker then dropped out at 250m! No obvious injury that I could see.

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      • Okoye doesn't make Zurich final. Wasnt at Brussels I note.

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        • Sifan Hassan goes for the World Mile Record in Brussels, doesn’t get it. Many PBs & NRs behind her of course.

          Not a good night for GB at all so far.
          Last edited by Grassmarket; 03-09-21, 20:07.

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          • Saw article via AW that current World rankings for the athletes show that on a points basis the top Brit is Pozzi in 60th place and Laura Muir top british female in 15th place.

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            • Everyone loves Natoya Goule. Certainly me. And evidently also The Hodge.
              Evidence? Item (a): Finishes the race in lane 6 so as to give Natoya every chance.
              (b) huge Stahl-sized congratulatory bear hug at the end. Natoya looked quite startled!

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              • With Mboma and Niyonsaba winning again in Brussels, WA have to do something about this situation before next season.

                Was delighted to see Alicia Monson sticking her nose in at the pointy end for so long in the 5000, going through 3k in about 8:43 she hung on for a 14:42.56 PB. Now #4 US all-time a fraction ahead of Molly Huddle but #3 if you discount "authentic burrito" munchers and #2 if you're counting only "proper" races not time-trials! Dathan Ritzenhein is doing great things with the On Athletics Club (Hoare also ran well in the 1500).
                Another terrific time for Eilish in 14:31.

                Great efforts by Keely & Jemma in the 800, looking much better than they did a couple of weeks ago.

                Even pre-45.94 dos Santos's winning time of 48.23 would have been a bit meh for a Diamond League!

                Talking about meh, has there ever been a worse Men's Long Jump in the Diamond League? That event is a bit lost if Echevarria & Tentoglou aren't competing.

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                • hemlock
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                  What has to happen in order for WA to add more events to the list DSD athletes cannot participate in? They have to somehow `prove' that the high testosterone is an unfair advantage, right? But how do they prove that?

                • Afrothletics
                  Afrothletics commented
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                  I disagree. It would be unfair to keep moving the goalposts for these women to the point where there are no events left for them to compete in. They graciously followed the rules set by the IAAF and stepped down from 400 / up from 800 into events that the IAAF did not include in their "advantaged events" list, so to change it again now because they have successfully done what they were asked to do by the IAAF would be wrong.

                • jjimbojames
                  jjimbojames commented
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                  But WA have always said all events - they were limited to the events they had evidence in by CAS…so now they’ll have evidence (not as much, but very stark) expanding that range. There doesn’t seem to be evidence for field events - so it’s on CAS whether they jump to include all or stick with bit by bit

              • Originally posted by paul View Post
                Everyone loves Natoya Goule. Certainly me. And evidently also The Hodge.
                Evidence? Item (a): Finishes the race in lane 6 so as to give Natoya every chance.
                (b) huge Stahl-sized congratulatory bear hug at the end. Natoya looked quite startled!
                Now look here, is her nickname "The Hodge", or is it "Aunty Keely"?
                Both are excellent nicknames (on a level with "Whispering Death" or "The Dark Destroyer"), but this needs to be settled.

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                • LuckySpikes
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                  Why "Aunty Keely"?

                • jjimbojames
                  jjimbojames commented
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                  Jenny Meadows/Trevor Painter’s child - unofficial​​​, of course!

              • @hemlock,

                Yes, while it may seem obvious to any observer that they're greatly advantaged by their "unusual biology", gathering enough data for those extra events might be an issue.

                I'm wondering if WA can go unilateral on this - just declare a change in the regulations and wait for an athlete to appeal to CAS? Or, do they HAVE to go through CAS now to get the regulations changed? I guess it might say in the ruling that CAS made a couple of years ago. Sometime, I might try and dig that out ...

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                • Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post
                  @hemlock,

                  Yes, while it may seem obvious to any observer that they're greatly advantaged by their "unusual biology", gathering enough data for those extra events might be an issue.

                  I'm wondering if WA can go unilateral on this - just declare a change in the regulations and wait for an athlete to appeal to CAS? Or, do they HAVE to go through CAS now to get the regulations changed? I guess it might say in the ruling that CAS made a couple of years ago. Sometime, I might try and dig that out ...
                  I think that this is the relevant document Lucky :-

                  https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/us...a_ASA_IAAF.pdf

                  You would probably need to read much of this document (life's too short) to fully understand the CAS decision. But Para 624 helps on the particular point you mention.

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                  • Originally posted by Laps View Post

                    I think that this is the relevant document Lucky :-

                    https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/us...a_ASA_IAAF.pdf

                    You would probably need to read much of this document (life's too short) to fully understand the CAS decision. But Para 624 helps on the particular point you mention.
                    Thanks!

                    OK, so having read paras 623 to 626 it seems that WA can go ahead and change the DSD regulations without consulting CAS. The role of CAS would only be to hear any appeals against those changes should they arise.

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                    • Yet another great win from Jemma Reekie yesterday.
                      She has of course drifted off the top of the world rankings due to missing the Olympic podium, but she has had an awesome season, and the future looks very bright.
                      In fact she has lots of very nice achievable targets for next year (such as the British record). In an odd kind of way, things are set up even better for her than for, ahem, Aunty Keely (whose targets appear to be (a) world record; (b) handing Mu her ass -- neither of which are impossible for her, but only because she is so ridiculously talented - they are certainly quite a tall order). We'll see.

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                      • great HJ competition in Zurich may have been noticed by some fans here. 2.05 by the Russian OG Champion aptly demonstrates how mental toughness is so essential in Track and Field.

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                        • SprintRelayFan
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                          She’s awesome.

                        • LuckySpikes
                          LuckySpikes commented
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                          Yes, really enjoyed the High Jump!

                          I sense a bit of post-Olympic lethargy here on the forum though!

                        • Laps
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                          As good as it gets that Hj. Three fighting it out at 2.05m. The champion showing she’s still top dog.

                      • Also Niyonsaba becomes 5000 champion…

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                        • Well I quite enjoyed the first day at Zurich - although not sure mixed long jumping turns or 560 metre tracks are going to be the way of the future 😄

                          That women's HJ was a ripper - once again those three gave us a wonderful contest ! If they keep pushing each other like this , I wonder could one of them possibly get up to threaten that long standing 2.09 ?

                          On the down side , Niyonsaba threatens to turn the long distance event into something like the 800 of recent years. I appreciate there are complicated issues ; but I still feel for a generation of 800 metre runners who must have felt their world aspirations were essentially limited to running for 4th place...

                          Onto the main track tonight !

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