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  • Ethiopian team of 34 named for Tokyo - https://www.worldathletics.org/compe...-olympic-games

    Strictly no doubling allowed!

    Gudaf Tsegay confirmed for the 5000, not the 1500.
    Getnet Wale doing the 5000 not the Steeple - what is he & the federation thinking?! With Kipruto possibly out he'd be the favourite for Steeple gold ! The 5000 on the other hand will be absolutely loaded in Tokyo. No Lamecha Girma in the Steeple either.

    No place on the team for Genzebe Dibaba or Muktar Edris. The end of an era?

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    • If I’m right Warholm’s run means that the 1500 is now the longest standing Olympic track individual men’s WR, dating back to 98 (4x4 goes back to 93, but we all know relays don’t count :-)).

      In the field this is predated by DT (86), HT (86), LJ (91), HJ (93), TJ (95) and JT (96).

      SP (90) is probably strictly on that list too as I doubt Crouser’s mark has been ratified yet. Mondo only broke the proper (ie outdoor) mark last year which dated back to 94.

      Make of that what you will (and some of you will definitely make things of it!) but looks like no men’s outdoor field WRs were set between 96 and 2020 which is quite staggering really.

      Might have been even worse if Bubka had actually tried to see what he was really capable of rather than inching (centimetring!) up the bar for the cash.

      There have been near misses though….

      DT - Alekna 73.88 in 00

      JT - Vetter’s 97.76 last year

      TJ - Taylor’s 18.21 in 15

      HJ - Barshim’s 2.43 in 14.

      HT and LJ pretty much unchallenged.

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      • Originally posted by Ursus
        If I’m right Warholm’s run means that the 1500 is now the longest standing Olympic track individual men’s WR, dating back to 98 (4x4 goes back to 93, but we all know relays don’t count :-)).

        In the field this is predated by DT (86), HT (86), LJ (91), HJ (93), TJ (95) and JT (96).

        SP (90) is probably strictly on that list too as I doubt Crouser’s mark has been ratified yet. Mondo only broke the proper (ie outdoor) mark last year which dated back to 94.

        Make of that what you will (and some of you will definitely make things of it!) but looks like no men’s outdoor field WRs were set between 96 and 2020 which is quite staggering really.

        Might have been even worse if Bubka had actually tried to see what he was really capable of rather than inching (centimetring!) up the bar for the cash.

        There have been near misses though….

        DT - Alekna 73.88 in 00

        JT - Vetter’s 97.76 last year

        TJ - Taylor’s 18.21 in 15

        HJ - Barshim’s 2.43 in 14.

        HT and LJ pretty much unchallenged.
        Err, you're forgetting Echavarria's 8.83 marginally windy long jump effort in Stockholm 2019, the one where he almost jumped out of the pit? That was challenging the LJ WR for sure.

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        • Ursus
          Ursus commented
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          Fair point, but was discounting windy efforts although that was marginal. With a stronger wind he also did an 8.92.

      • Originally posted by Ursus
        If I’m right Warholm’s run means that the 1500 is now the longest standing Olympic track individual men’s WR, dating back to 98 (4x4 goes back to 93, but we all know relays don’t count :-)).

        In the field this is predated by DT (86), HT (86), LJ (91), HJ (93), TJ (95) and JT (96).

        SP (90) is probably strictly on that list too as I doubt Crouser’s mark has been ratified yet. Mondo only broke the proper (ie outdoor) mark last year which dated back to 94.

        Make of that what you will (and some of you will definitely make things of it!) but looks like no men’s outdoor field WRs were set between 96 and 2020 which is quite staggering really.

        Might have been even worse if Bubka had actually tried to see what he was really capable of rather than inching (centimetring!) up the bar for the cash.

        There have been near misses though….

        DT - Alekna 73.88 in 00

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        Alekna’s son beat the U20WR a few days back, will be going to the European U-20s in a couple of weeks.

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        • Ursus
          Ursus commented
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          Chip off the old block then! Any details? I can only see that Nestarenko (whatever happened to him?) still holds the mark with both senior and 1.75kg implements, although Alekna jnr is right up there.

        • Grassmarket
          Grassmarket commented
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          Here we go. Myklos Alekna 69.77 with the 1.75kg, second best all time, actually.

      • Originally posted by Ursus
        If I’m right Warholm’s run means that the 1500 is now the longest standing Olympic track individual men’s WR, dating back to 98 (4x4 goes back to 93, but we all know relays don’t count :-)).

        In the field this is predated by DT (86), HT (86), LJ (91), HJ (93), TJ (95) and JT (96).

        SP (90) is probably strictly on that list too as I doubt Crouser’s mark has been ratified yet. Mondo only broke the proper (ie outdoor) mark last year which dated back to 94.

        Make of that what you will (and some of you will definitely make things of it!) but looks like no men’s outdoor field WRs were set between 96 and 2020 which is quite staggering really.

        Might have been even worse if Bubka had actually tried to see what he was really capable of rather than inching (centimetring!) up the bar for the cash.

        There have been near misses though….

        DT - Alekna 73.88 in 00

        JT - Vetter’s 97.76 last year

        TJ - Taylor’s 18.21 in 15

        HJ - Barshim’s 2.43 in 14.

        HT and LJ pretty much unchallenged.
        One thing I realised is that, during the 80s and 90s, we had probably the greatest ever exponents in the men's HJ (Sotomayor), PV (Bubka), HT (Sedykh*) and JT (Zelezny) so perhaps it's not surprising that some records from then have lasted quite a few years. Plus Edwards, who some might argue is the greatest ever TJer.

        *I know he won his first Olympics in the '70s but I don't think he set a WR that decade.

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        • Anyone know what's going on with Mboma?

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          • Originally posted by paul
            Anyone know what's going on with Mboma?
            Yes, but it would involve posting a link! Verboten as anti spam measure. See below or not.

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            • Mboma link.

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              • unapproved. Why for goodness sake

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                • Originally posted by philipo
                  unapproved. Why for goodness sake
                  Because we’ve all spent the last year moaning about spam. Just search Namibia Olympic Team.

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                  • Thanks Grassmarket.
                    There is quite a lot of comment out there, with a tiny proportion of more factual information.

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                    • "Now the nasty shits of t and f news are going into their pathetic suggestions that she may be perhaps , a bit masculine.. creeps; she looks a lot more normal than Mu.to me. Ok she is young but so is many an american. Knighton ???"
                      -- "philipo" about Christine Mboma

                      That aged well, didn't it? Seems like those "nasty shits" and "creeps" had a point...

                      Anyway, is there a reason that "philipo" can get away with his incessant (drunken?) rants and awful behaviour on this forum? It's appalling.

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                      • MysteryBrick
                        MysteryBrick commented
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                        Lack of moderators, for the most part

                      • Pierre Johansson
                        Pierre Johansson commented
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                        Yes, perhaps. But I wrote a post critical of the BLM movement and its influence on athletics (and further politicisation of the sport) a while back and that post was removed pretty quickly. A nearly genocidal hatred of Americans and the United States = OK, "insensitive comments" about a divisive political organization = not OK.

                    • Records seem to be falling almost daily - all the disruptions of Covid , rather counterintuitively , seem to have been "good" for performances.

                      Warholm was going to do it sooner or later . Very impressive , though ! Suspect Vetter might be the next to take down a long-standing mark.

                      Delighted by the way for McSweyn . He is clearly in extremely good form and represents what is sadly rare in modern times : a male Australian track performer with at least a chance of pushing for an Olympic medal. Days of Elliott , Doubell , etc long past... Not saying he will win one - tough event. But he has to be in the mix.

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                      • Originally posted by alfie
                        Records seem to be falling almost daily - all the disruptions of Covid , rather counterintuitively , seem to have been "good" for performances.

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                        I’m not sure it is counter-intuitive. I think most mid-career athletes are carrying some kind of minor injury, so a year’s break, or at least a very light season, can only be beneficial.

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                        • Originally posted by alfie
                          ...
                          Delighted by the way for McSweyn . He is clearly in extremely good form and represents what is sadly rare in modern times : a male Australian track performer with at least a chance of pushing for an Olympic medal. Days of Elliott , Doubell , etc long past... Not saying he will win one - tough event. But he has to be in the mix.
                          Australia will have a strong 1500m team in Tokyo what with Olli Hoare and Jye Edwards as well. All 3 of them would have a shot at a medal if the final is run in a way that suits them. McSweyn & Hoare would probably prefer it fast, Edwards probably slower at the start with a hard run for home about 600 out.

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                          • MysteryBrick
                            MysteryBrick commented
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                            Yes, Australia, US and GB all have really strong teams in the M1500m.

                          • Grassmarket
                            Grassmarket commented
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                            Back to the 50s, when the Africans were not really a factor & the Mile was the most prestigious distance.
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