2018/19 funding

[Henry]

I think most about those on podium subsidizing and a considerable amount on potential have sponsorship and furthermore get customary welcomes to with appearance expenses and prize cash there





















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[drobbie]

I’ve wondered in the past to what extent sponsors are aware of athletes levels of funding and whether they offer them less than they otherwise would have done if funding didn’t exist. I’m sure the bigger names with still have agents able to negotiate assertively in the marketplace but what of the Martyn Rooney’s of this world who aren’t household names.

It would have been nice to see Efoloko and Norris join Emerson on potential funding after their exploits at the world u20s. Their achievements were on a par with Emerson’s, who was potential last year. Perhaps Norris’ NCAA involvement precludes him. I can’t see why they couldn’t move Ofili down to potential funding if they can put Shara Proctor straight up to Podium. Ashleigh Nelson is quite fortunate to be funded again after the emergence of Awuah

emerson won a senior individual medal in the commonwealths so i can see why she was picked over them

[Ladyloz]

NCAA does exclude people from funding (Duckworth & Kerr are being funded for the first time now they have turned pro.) Am guessing Efoloko will get Futures Funding which will be announced next week. He's certainly worth a place more than Francis or Kilty on relay funding though.

[treadwater1]

Personally I'd put all on the funding on £28k - if they don't live with parents, have sponsors or have a partner that can support them, you can't actually live off £7k. I know the concept of full time athletes is sometimes considered to breed "soft" and lazy athletes, but if we can't commit to them being "professional" in that sense then the funding really isn't giving them the opportunity to give their best.

I’ve wondered in the past to what extent sponsors are aware of athletes levels of funding and whether they offer them less than they otherwise would have done if funding didn’t exist. I’m sure the bigger names with still have agents able to negotiate assertively in the marketplace but what of the Martyn Rooney’s of this world who aren’t household names.

It would have been nice to see Efoloko and Norris join Emerson on potential funding after their exploits at the world u20s. Their achievements were on a par with Emerson’s, who was potential last year. Perhaps Norris’ NCAA involvement precludes him. I can’t see why they couldn’t move Ofili down to potential funding if they can put Shara Proctor straight up to Podium. Ashleigh Nelson is quite fortunate to be funded again after the emergence of Awuah

[Ladyloz]

[QUOTE=larkim;n231]Personally I'd put all on the funding on £28k - if they don't live with parents, have sponsors or have a partner that can support them, you can't actually live off £7k. I know the concept of full time athletes is sometimes considered to breed "soft" and lazy athletes, but if we can't commit to them being "professional" in that sense then the funding really isn't giving them the opportunity to give their best.

I think most of those on Podium funding and quite a lot on Potential/Relay have sponsorship. And also get regular invites to DL with appearance fees & prize money there.

Those that get dropped often say the medical support is what they miss rather than the everyday costs.

[Ladyloz]

or maybe a number of the relay athletes are in C D or E levels; much lower and more sensible amounts.

Think those that ran in finals at London 2017 are on A funding, any that ran in heats on B with others on C/D

[larkim]

Looking through the MD events in particular, based on 2018 timing rankings alone, the following stand out:-
Chris O'Hare - fastest 1500m last year by some way; but only one stand out performance. Is his US connection getting in the way?
Guy Learmonth - 2nd fastest 800m last year, but again was that just one stand out performance which has counted against him?
Alex Bell - only ranked 5th last year for 800m, with Muir, Sharp, Oskan-Clarke and Tracey ahead of her. Four years as a senior, is it too harsh to suggest "potential" doesn't make too much sense any more?

There are other rants in other forums about other MD proponents missing, but few really make compelling cases in ranking terms when compared to the ones in the funding buckets.

[sidelined]

So Kilty is retained on funding again? How mysterious.

I notice Alex Bell has been dropped from Potential funding. I wonder if her outrage at not being selected for the Europeans was a factor? One would hope not, obviously.

It's excellent to see Laura Weightman and Shara Proctor back on funding.

[larkim]

Personally I'd put all on the funding on £28k - if they don't live with parents, have sponsors or have a partner that can support them, you can't actually live off £7k. I know the concept of full time athletes is sometimes considered to breed "soft" and lazy athletes, but if we can't commit to them being "professional" in that sense then the funding really isn't giving them the opportunity to give their best.

[philipo]

or maybe a number of the relay athletes are in C D or E levels; much lower and more sensible amounts.

[philipo]

It's all documented here http://jaskcreative.s3.amazonaws.com...ndex.html#p=20

£28k max down to £7k, plus medical support. Funding is means tested too, so the top stars don't draw on the £28k of living costs etc.

Olympic Relays is shown as £28K or £21K p.a, ; that seems strange when looking at the names of some athletes on the Relays list getting 28K p.a., as much as our top podium hopes. We cannot know, perhaps, who on the long Relays actually gets what , can we?? The 14 names on the Olympic Podium list seem pretty reasonable.

[larkim]

It's all documented here http://jaskcreative.s3.amazonaws.com...ndex.html#p=20

£28k max down to £7k, plus medical support. Funding is means tested too, so the top stars don't draw on the £28k of living costs etc.

[Richard21]

Thanks Larkin......Do you know how much £ financial support they are actually awarded ? And Do all the names listed in a group (eg Poduim Potential) all get exactly he same amounts/awards , which I assume (?) are subject to several conditions like actually competing, when selected in a GB vest ? .

[larkim]

There's usually some debate about the funding allocations, but the lists have been published today. I've copied the non-para funding below. British Athletics World Class Programme 2018-19

Olympic Podium
Dina Asher-Smith
Holly Bradshaw
Mo Farah
Callum Hawkins
Sophie Hitchon
Zharnel Hughes
Katarina Johnson-Thompson
Morgan Lake
Nick Miller
Laura Muir
Reece Prescod
Shara Proctor
Lynsey Sharp
Lorraine Ugen

Olympic Podium Potential
Tom Bosworth
Andrew Butchart
Taylor Campbell
Rosie Clarke
Melissa Courtney
Tim Duckworth
Niamh Emerson
Tom Gale
Elliot Giles
Charlie Da’Vall Grice
Dewi Griffiths
Adam Hague
Josh Kerr
Kyle Langford
Eilish McColgan
Sarah McDonald
Naomi Ogbeta
Shelayna Oskan-Clarke
Andrew Pozzi
Jemma Reekie
Daniel Rowden
Jazmin Sawyers
Katie Snowden
Adelle Tracey
Laura Weightman
Jake Wightman
Callum Wilkinson

Olympic Relays
Finette Agyapong
Amy Allcock
Kristal Awuah
Cameron Chalmers
Zoey Clark
Dwayne Cowan
Emily Diamond
Beth Dobbin
Eilidh Doyle
Ojie Edoburun
Miguel Francis
Adam Gemili
Desiree Henry
Matthew Hudson-Smith
Richard Kilty
Imani-Lara Lansiquot
Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake
Daryll Neita
Ashleigh Nelson
Laviai Nielsen
Asha Philip
Martyn Rooney
Danny Talbot
CJ Ujah
Bianca Williams
Rabah Yousif