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  • #31
    Oh and the idea of using 10k road times and cross country performances is one of the worst suggestions I've ever heard. There are many, many runners who are specialists in road running and natural mudders who have no real aptitude or inclination towards track running, Gemma Steel and, to a lesser degree, Fionulla McCormack to name just two. Bring back respect for the 10000m track race instead. Highbury has shown how great and popular an event it can be with a little imagination. That's it, rant over

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    • #32
      Originally posted by frankie cahill View Post
      ... That's it, rant over
      Shame. I like a good rant!

      I think you're right to wonder about the effects on meetings like the Morton Games & Cork City Sports and the many good smaller meetings around Europe, the USA etc where good performances are (legitimately) achieved against good competition. It feels like the proposed rankings system has downgraded them with the possible result that they will no longer be as attractive to some athletes.

      I too share your frustration that British Athletics does not make an effort to establish more of these kind of meetings (Loughborough LEAP barely qualifies as an international meeting). However, it seems they're only interested in the big bucks that are generated by Diamond Leagues & Athletics World Cups and sadly the proposed rankings system, as it stands, would appear to further reduce the incentive to develop smaller international meetings.

      Completely agree too about saving the 10,000m. We had great races this year at Highgate and at the Euros but it's not enough, hence my question for Paula Radcliffe in the thread created by the Backstraight Boys. Hopefully it gets asked. I would hope she has some lobbying influence in her role at the IAAF and can help make this happen.
      Last edited by LuckySpikes; 28-11-18, 09:41.

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      • #33
        One of advantages of the new system is that it should in theory create more fair lineups at Diamond League level, so far much of criticism from the feds has been that DL invites go to a select few with well connected agents. If a little known athlete puts in an exceptional performance early season the IAAF would be duty bound to get them a place or risk further criticism. It might mean the IAAF having more influence on who gets lanes at events, but perhaps it’s a price worth paying to improve the quality of the DL

        i think it will also force the questionable athletes from the Russia’s, Ukraine’s and Turkey’s of this world to play ball and turn up to meets in Western Europe. They will be reliant on building up a series of good performances rather than relying on one stand out which gets the Q mark at their national championships

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        • #34
          Originally posted by frankie cahill View Post
          Oh and the idea of using 10k road times and cross country performances is one of the worst suggestions I've ever heard. There are many, many runners who are specialists in road running and natural mudders who have no real aptitude or inclination towards track running, Gemma Steel and, to a lesser degree, Fionulla McCormack to name just two. Bring back respect for the 10000m track race instead. Highbury has shown how great and popular an event it can be with a little imagination. That's it, rant over
          I disagree with this completely. Integrating XC and 10k road running into the track qualification system allows specialists in those areas to score big points and potentially get qualification for track championships where they can add something different to the races. At the minute it's fast time or bust for qualification.

          I do agree that more 10000m racing on the track, leveraging what Highbury does, is absolutely a positive thing, but adding XC particularly to the mix might cross pollenate both XC and 10000m with runners that otherwise concentrate on one side of the sport rather than the other.

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          • #35
            You make a good point Larkim regarding the cross pollination. I'm not entirely convinced, but it is a positive way of looking at it. Certainly I hadn't considered that it might have the effect of encouring more runners into cross country, but my fears about decent non Diamond League events remains, & the sport should be building these events up

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            • #36
              I'm ever the optimist! The points on offer for winning the world cross are equivalent to running a 10000m in world record time I think, so for one good XC runner that will be a big haul of points. Having said that, I think the real issue for all events won't be at the top end of the qualifications, it will be about the bottom end, where finishing inside the top 10 in the World Cross probably won't be quite as good "VFM" as getting into a decent quality field race on the track and having a strong run.

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              • #37
                Have they declared the particulars? Not seen that yet, must go off and google...























                http://historicarmouries.com.au/
                Last edited by Henry; 31-12-18, 11:38.

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