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  • KJT or DAS for SPOTY 2019?

    I think they both deserve it, but will probably split the athletics vote.

    So who deserves it more?

    Dina, one gold and two silvers, plus diamond league win. Gold winning performance superlative but lacked opposition.

    Kat much more of a surprise, brilliant throughout, but some will say against injured rival.

    Amazing though Dina is, I might pick Kat.

    Other thoughts?

  • #2
    I can't see either of them getting close to Ben Stokes but Dina rather than Kat for me.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Laps View Post
      I can't see either of them getting close to Ben Stokes but Dina rather than Kat for me.
      Whilst I agree that’s the likely outcome, I find it depressing that outplaying a single country’s bowlers is held in higher regard than beating competition from around the world.

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      • #4
        It’s going to be Owen Farrell......:-)

        Hamilton’s 6th world title will get more votes than it should.

        Peaty going sub 57 won’t get as many votes as it should.

        Dina and Kat will split the athletics vote. The more casual follower may be tempted by Dina, but I’d go for Kat.

        Stokes is likely though. Headingley in the Ashes was improbably freakish, but his innings in the World Cup final should be what really wins it. 2 astonishing innings with a healthy dollop of redemption thrown in.
        Last edited by Ursus; 07-10-19, 00:15.

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        • #5
          If we're all honest, Adam Peaty is probably already the greatest British athlete of all time. We have never had an athlete as dominant as him in an Olympic sport. A few mindblowing statistics;

          - He has never lost a race at the European Championships; Not a heat, semi or final. 12 events entered, 12 golds won.

          - He is, at the age of 24, already an 8 time World Champion and has never lost a heat, semi or final in an individual event on the global stage in his career (Worlds/Olympics).

          He won't win, but he absolutely hands down deserves to at a canter.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Christy93 View Post
            If we're all honest, Adam Peaty is probably already the greatest British athlete of all time. We have never had an athlete as dominant as him in an Olympic sport. A few mindblowing statistics;

            - He has never lost a race at the European Championships; Not a heat, semi or final. 12 events entered, 12 golds won.

            - He is, at the age of 24, already an 8 time World Champion and has never lost a heat, semi or final in an individual event on the global stage in his career (Worlds/Olympics).

            He won't win, but he absolutely hands down deserves to at a canter.
            Adam Peaty is the greatest breastroker in history, and as you say, that's before he is ever reached the age of 25.

            Not only is he undefeated in World or Olympic competition at 50m (Worlds only) and 100m Breastroke, no-one has come within 1 and a half seconds of his various world records at the 100m distance. In fact, he is the only human to swim the event under 58 AND 57 seconds. No one else has done that! And heading into the Tokyo Olympic swimming program next summer, there is likely nobody on the planet who is going to get close to him again.

            Funnily enough, much like heptathlon has produced a production-line of world class exponents (neatly returning this entertaining derail back to KJT at least!), the men's breastroke team has also become a production line in the last decade or so. Along with Peaty, you've got Ross Murdoch the 2014 Commonwealth champion over 200m and bronze medalist over 100m and British record holder at the 200m distance, Micheal Jamieson (retired) silver medalist over 100m breastroke at London 2012, James Wilby who won silver behind Peaty at this year's World Championships (and in the process becoming the joint 3rd fastest man ever over the distance). And there are a bunch of juniors coming through who, inspired by Peaty's achievements, coming through the system too.

            Yeah, Adam should be an easy winner of SPOTY, but it's almost certainly going to Ben Stokes.
            Last edited by RunUnlimited; 07-10-19, 01:33.

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            • #7
              Bookies have pretty much given it to Stokes.

              DAS and KJT are 2nd and 3rd favourites.

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              • Laps
                Laps commented
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                You only have to read Ben Stoke's Wiki entries for this year to see why he is going to win SPOTY -


                2019 Cricket World Cup

                In the opening match of the tournament against South Africa, he made a score of 89 runs from 79 balls, claimed two wickets, ran out Dwaine Pretorius and took two catches to be declared "Man of the Match" in a comprehensive 104-run win for England. His catch to dismiss Andile Phehlukwayo has been described as "one of the greatest catches of all time". In the final against New Zealand, he scored 84*, including 2 sixes in the final over, to tie the game. He then batted in the super over with Jos Buttler, which again was a tie, but England won the match on the boundary count back rule. For this performance, he was named "Man of the Match" for the second time in the tournament.

                2019 Ashes

                Faced with an incisive Australian bowling attack and Bradmanesque batting contribution from Steve Smith, Stokes played a pivotal role in enabling England ultimately to draw the 2019 Ashes series 2–2 (although Australia thereby retained the urn). In the third test at Headingley, England appeared to be heading for almost certain defeat after they were bowled out for 67 in their first innings.Stokes managed to overturn an overnight Australian lead, hitting 11 fours and 8 sixes to win with an unbeaten 135* in a record pursuit of 359. His innings has been described as "one of the greatest innings of all time" and the "greatest ever played by an Englishman".

            • #8
              Just seen pictures of Ben Stokes appearing to choke his wife at Cricket Awards. Things might not be straight forward anymore.

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              • Laps
                Laps commented
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                Yawn!
                Our media are pathetic.

              • philipo
                philipo commented
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                thayts your understatement of the month

            • #9
              KJT nominated for IAAF Athlete of the Year: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/50057749

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              • #10
                Dina named Sunday Times Sportswoman of the Year: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/50510375

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                • #11
                  Both nominated for SPOTY. Only six on the shortlist. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/spo...ality/50494490

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                  • #12
                    Unfortunately, this will split the athletics vote and probably hamper what small chance Dina had against Stokes.

                    Not saying KJT doesn’t deserve it, but Dina is the more likely winner of the two and had KJT not got down to the final 6, Dina would have more support.

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                    • #13
                      Still, impressive that 33% of the SPOTY candidates are female athletes. Can't complain about the profile of the sport in that context, against the might of football, rugby, motorsport and cricket.

                      For me out of those, it's Stokes, Hamilton and KJT. Much as Dina is brilliant and from a personality perspective she has bucket loads. But KJT's achievements are greater, IMHO, considering her apparent frailties and the shoes of JE-H that she is filling!

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                      • philipo
                        philipo commented
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                        rugby, cricket and football are team sports so are not to be compared with somebody from an individual type sport. Motor sport is a team event in truth and involves advisers during the race and masses of technicians, far different to individual coaches. Always considered the the great public know fucjk all about sport anyway.

                      • larkim
                        larkim commented
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                        It's a well worn debate about which sports or sports achievements are valid compared to others. I could no more drive a car as fast as LH as I could hit a cricket ball as well as BS nor sprint as well as DAS. They are at the top of their sports, however you want to look at them. I'm an athletics fan, I'm not going to deny that I don't think that T&F athletes are the epitomy of demonstrating personal physical capabilities. But sport isn't just about that; it's entertainment, it is rules, it iis structures, its competition. They all deserve their nominations and whoever is the most popular will win.

                    • #14
                      Athletics was quite well represented in the end with Dina getting third place behind Stokes and Hamilton, her coach John Blackie named Coach of the Year, plus Eliud Kipchoge getting the international award.

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                      • #15
                        Have the detailed voting volumes been released yet?

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