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  • #31
    Hapless GB&NI DQ in the final.

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    • #32
      Very poor from Yousif there - his fault, bad enough - but then let’s Harries take the blame and not at least even share it

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      • hew79
        hew79 commented
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        I thought that. He should at intervened when the kid Harries said ‘its all my fault’.

    • #33
      Feel sorry for the relay but..... this is indicative of where we are in the world scene. The team has been in decline for some years. There are a few if only this and that happens alll the time but the depth of finalists and the number who were nowhere near makiong finals makes one wonder, is that the best we can do in this country with his many people and our facilities adn funding? I have bno idea how a physio gets pormoted to perfornmace director. He has to be responsible for his coaching team who just are not up to it. There is a new CEO - let this be a chace for her to restructure. This is her sport now - does she want to inherit the current failing regimes or is she prepared to do something different. Two women won three individual medles. One coached overseas and the other by someone outside the UKA system. Many of our athletes have foreigh accents and many of them are coaches overseas and a large number of the UK born athletes are taking on overseas coaches. Injuries seem to be at epedmic levels. Where is all the money going? Why is the COE giving themmselve £300k bonuses and saying things that they have left the sport in a better state. Time for a change as there is no progress or value added here! SOme greaet performances at this champs though

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      • #34
        GB women pushed up to bronze as Jamaica have been disqualified- I don't know why

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        • #35
          Originally posted by Jogger View Post
          GB women pushed up to bronze as Jamaica have been disqualified- I don't know why
          See post by jjimbojames on the previous page

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          • #36
            Originally posted by jjimbojames View Post
            Hate to get a medal on a technicality, but Jamaican third leg runner was stood in the wrong place, same reason the GBR men got DQd a few years ago
            More than a technicality - that gained them at least 3m and cost us at least 1m. I assume the officials lined McPherson up in 4th and she moved She should know the rule given her experience.

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            • oxfan
              oxfan commented
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              But the IAAF live feed has said Jamaica have been reinstated as irrelevant gain. I agree with Sovietvest, i think it was a difference, was it 0.65 sec?

          • #37
            the end of a great Championships despite some poor crowds; forget euro size crowds in Oregon iin 2 years time.
            I reckon the overall standard of performance over the individual events was as I immediately recall very good with some great rivalries; middle distance and long distance races of a high standard and good to see that if you are good enough you can run a quick time even in Globals.Hassan and Cheryuiot showed no fear. The field events were sound except a rather disappointing Javelin today. Two fine LJs and many other events with good breadth of performances.
            Performance of the Champs for me shared between Naser, Muhammad,Hassan in the 1500m, Barshim after an injury strewn year. and KJT in terms of her superiority over others.

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            • #38
              The IAAF appeals team seem to be making up when to apply rules as they go along at this champs - see this race, the W800m semis, m4x100m heats and the 110m hurdles extra medals...nothing like a bit of consistency!

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              • #39
                Originally posted by Happyjogger View Post
                Feel sorry for the relay but..... this is indicative of where we are in the world scene. The team has been in decline for some years. There are a few if only this and that happens alll the time but the depth of finalists and the number who were nowhere near makiong finals makes one wonder, is that the best we can do in this country with his many people and our facilities adn funding? I have bno idea how a physio gets pormoted to perfornmace director. He has to be responsible for his coaching team who just are not up to it. There is a new CEO - let this be a chace for her to restructure. This is her sport now - does she want to inherit the current failing regimes or is she prepared to do something different. Two women won three individual medles. One coached overseas and the other by someone outside the UKA system. Many of our athletes have foreigh accents and many of them are coaches overseas and a large number of the UK born athletes are taking on overseas coaches. Injuries seem to be at epedmic levels. Where is all the money going? Why is the COE giving themmselve £300k bonuses and saying things that they have left the sport in a better state. Time for a change as there is no progress or value added here! SOme greaet performances at this champs though
                Worst performance in the placings table (82) since Daegu (73). Recent scores:
                2012 - 95
                2013 - 84
                2015 - 94
                2016 - 93
                2017 - 105.

                Of course, we were getting 16 points from Mo.

                In Helsinki we scored 35.

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                • #40
                  Originally posted by Sovietvest View Post

                  Worst performance in the placings table (82) since Daegu (73). Recent scores:
                  2012 - 95
                  2013 - 84
                  2015 - 94
                  2016 - 93
                  2017 - 105.

                  Of course, we were getting 16 points from Mo.

                  In Helsinki we scored 35.
                  I have been making the point for several years when the UKA haters started their post Champs gripes that the placing tables actuallyshowed progress and good GB strength in depth.
                  Not so much this year. Though there were five 4ths.. Also the 82 points include 5pts for the new event.

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                  • #41
                    Originally posted by RunUnlimited View Post
                    And for the 2nd World Championships out of 3, a winner from a non-traditional powerhouse in javelin wins the gold medal. Anderson Peters of Grenada's throw of 86.89m in the fourth round was enough to win ahead of world leader Magnus Kirt (who unfortunately hurt himself in the 5th and couldn't continue) and previous world champion Johannes Vetter, who will be massively diappointed to only throw a best of 85.37m for a bronze medal, way down on what was expected from him and the German athletics federation.
                    Very disappointing competition all round. All the best to Kirt, that looked horrible.

                    No doubt there will be a post mortem thread along in a minute. For now I’m struggling to remember a champs where there were quite so many truly stellar performances, albeit I’m afraid that the cynic in me will always wonder. The outright highlight was the men’s shot. GB highlight, for all Dasher’s brilliance, was unquestionably KJT.
                    Last edited by Ursus; 06-10-19, 22:44.

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                    • #42
                      Originally posted by Happyjogger View Post
                      Feel sorry for the relay but..... this is indicative of where we are in the world scene. The team has been in decline for some years. There are a few if only this and that happens alll the time but the depth of finalists and the number who were nowhere near makiong finals makes one wonder, is that the best we can do in this country with his many people and our facilities adn funding? I have bno idea how a physio gets pormoted to perfornmace director. He has to be responsible for his coaching team who just are not up to it. There is a new CEO - let this be a chace for her to restructure. This is her sport now - does she want to inherit the current failing regimes or is she prepared to do something different. Two women won three individual medles. One coached overseas and the other by someone outside the UKA system. Many of our athletes have foreigh accents and many of them are coaches overseas and a large number of the UK born athletes are taking on overseas coaches. Injuries seem to be at epedmic levels. Where is all the money going? Why is the COE giving themmselve £300k bonuses and saying things that they have left the sport in a better state. Time for a change as there is no progress or value added here! SOme greaet performances at this champs though
                      maybe philipo is not that bad , this year was a poor performance, but the team has not been in decline for years, we have been far superior this decade to where we were last decade, people with different accents - still british, as for people going overseas to get coached, not sure what the problem is

                      events we are good to great in

                      short sprints / sprint relay
                      1500
                      womens 5000
                      mens marathon
                      womens long jump
                      heptathlon
                      womens shot put
                      mens hammer
                      woman 400 relay

                      average to poor
                      decathon
                      800
                      400
                      mens 400 relay
                      mens 5000

                      terrible
                      all of the jumps barring womens long jump
                      all of throws barring w shot put and mens hammer
                      womens marathon
                      100000

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                      • Biggut
                        Biggut commented
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                        How are we great in men’s marathon but terrible in women’s pole vault?

                      • drobbie
                        drobbie commented
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                        bollocks, forgot about pole vault, thats obviously in the good to great category

                    • #43
                      Originally posted by LuckySpikes
                      Well done to the Scottish lads in the 1500 - a brutal race. How Scottish is Jake Wightman though? I know he lived there for a bit but he's no more Scottish than Steph Twell it seems. :.
                      His Dad (who was a stadium announcer in Doha) ran for England while his Mum ran for Wales. He took up the sport while his Dad was working for Scottish Athletics and I can understand him running for Scotland as he is a product of the sport in Scotland although he did improve massively while he was at Loughborough. I think Steph Twell has a Scottish parent?

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                      • #44
                        Originally posted by drobbie View Post
                        as for people going overseas to get coached, not sure what the problem is
                        Agreed and worth pointing out that Gabriela Debues-Stafford ran a Canadian 1500 record under the coaching of our own Andy Young.

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                        • #45
                          UKA hating is to point out the fact that it has been on a general decelin for years and the point about many of the UK athletes using foreign coaches is that they are going outside the UK approved coaches because they do not have the confidence int hem and add to that that there are so many of our athletes who are imports - comoare this to the 80 and 90's where theer was no funding nor facilitites but just peopel workking hard with that and thier own personal coaches. The UKA system is not working and has not been with tis admin heavy cnetre policies wihere theyparachute people into positions where little success has come from it. New CEO, new start. Madnes is doing the same thing and expect different results.

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                          • Laps
                            Laps commented
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                            GB had its best Placing Table (first 8) result - 105 - in history in 2017. This followed above average performances in 2012 (95), 2015 (94) and 2016 (93).
                            So at elite level there hasn't been a general decline for years. End of argument.
                            Madness is not looking up the facts before you rant.
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