2019 IAAF WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS (Doha, QAT) Day 7

[camerajuan]

I think Muhammad needs to win tonight to be in the running. A world record is one thing but underperforming at a major champs isn't good for a recent record breaker. I think McLaughlin has her in her pocket for this one. Gonna be a great race whatever happens!

[camerajuan]

Some people have been screengrabbing & posting his shizz. Monkey heed!

[carterhatch]

A point well made about the pressure KJT applied. It hasn't been unreasonable of opponents to factor in KJT wavering in at least one event, her body language signalling to the world her disappointment in a run, or a jump or a throw, but no longer! This is a rebooted KJT 2.0 . The smile that followed her hurdles could have launched a thousand young girls into pursuing their dreams. Thiam is a fantastic athlete, but niggle or no niggle, she was beaten by the better athlete over the '48 hours'. I now can look forward to Niamh Emerson joining KJT on a podium in the very near future.

[larkim]

Numerically the contest was easily won by KJT, but she simply didn't get to 5 events in through Thiam's injury. In fact, up to the final javelin throw she was competing with Thiam toe to toe and beating her, irrespective of whatever is up with that elbow. Only once Thiam had passed her final throw in the javelin did anything really change in the dynamic of the pressure of the event - and then Kat didn't throw any further!

She could have cruised the 800m if she'd wanted to too, but she just did what she would have done even if Thiam had gone 55m+. 4th on the all time list, British record etc speaks for itself.

[treadwater1]

A slightly different take on yesterday’s event, phenomenal performances from Kat but I have to disagree that Thiams injury was crucial. Thiam was on 4042 after day one, last year in Berlin her day one score was 3930. Her Berlin score (6816) was the second best of her career at that point, I genuinely think she faltered because of the pressure KJT put on her, her body language was not as confident as it normally is, she couldn’t respond in the long jump like she so often has as she realised Kats score was insurmountable. I suppose it shows she’s human after all. The elbow injury wasn’t crucial as the contest was already over at that point. Remember she threw 53m in Rio when she appeared to be in much more pain. I sincerely hope she can make a full recovery, but I suspect she would need surgery as it’s a reoccurring problem.

We’ve seen a couple of huge talents emerge in the last few years in Elaine Thompson, Echevarria, SMU and Thiam who have recorded marks that have measured up against the greatest of all time. It looked as though they would dominate their events for years to come only to be deposed a short time later. This has been quite the champs for upsets.

Im not sure what to make of Naser’s run last night, some think it’s too good to be true, but then WvN took a huge chunk off MJs WR, so why not believe? But I can understand the caution

A fascinating contest emerging for female athlete of the year: Muhammad, Dina, Naser and KJT can all make a case

[larkim]

Filip Ingebrigtsen hasn't been DQ'd! Bit bizarre in my opinion.

I'm stunned that he hasn't been. He clearly balls his hand into a fist, and even if it isn't a firm punch there is visibly an aggresive punch rather than a flat hand on the back. Nevermind the aggressive cut back in which takes away his legs.

It must have escaped the track judge's attention (possible, they can't see everything live) AND not been protested by Ethiopia. Another one of those where if we had transparency of the jury process we'd at least be able to see if there was actually a decision made one way or another.

Edit: Lemi and Ramsden both advanced to the semi, hadn't spotted that earlier. Still surprised that Filip is in there though.

[RunUnlimited]

The spear was pivotal in both multis.

Kat, at last, has grooved a serviceable technique that will guarantee low 40s. But there’s more to come, the lack of follow through on her PB throw was quite bizarre. As well as Kat sorting herself out there’s been some great work from her coaching team.

Thiam’s got a real problem. The spear’s her big point of difference, but elbow problems are really difficult to shake off. She may well need medical intervention and / or technique remodelling. Either way I doubt we’re going to see 16 / 17m differentials again which brings a whole new dynamic into play.

Kaul just blew it all apart in the spear and that wasn’t a freak either, he’s got 78 and 77 to his credit from earlier this year. Great technique, he simply looks like a proper thrower and 80 will come. Disgraceful that such a good thrower can also run a fantastic 1,500 too.

That last line though... L O L!

[Stew-Coach]

I think I am only just out of shock from that 400!
Im here trying to get woman to maybe 51/50 lol and the world has shifted.

Excellent performance by KJT, sublime

[Ursus]

The spear was pivotal in both multis.

Kat, at last, has grooved a serviceable technique that will guarantee low 40s. But there’s more to come, the lack of follow through on her PB throw was quite bizarre. As well as Kat sorting herself out there’s been some great work from her coaching team.

Thiam’s got a real problem. The spear’s her big point of difference, but elbow problems are really difficult to shake off. She may well need medical intervention and / or technique remodelling. Either way I doubt we’re going to see 16 / 17m differentials again which brings a whole new dynamic into play.

Kaul just blew it all apart in the spear and that wasn’t a freak either, he’s got 78 and 77 to his credit from earlier this year. Great technique, he simply looks like a proper thrower and 80 will come. Disgraceful that such a good thrower can also run a fantastic 1,500 too.

[Occasional Hope]

Incredible actually means unbelievable.

[carterhatch]

I thought much the same over my morning ablutions... where once the forum's lively KJT debate - second only to the relay line up discussions - often centred around the misnomer of a critical 2m/7m combo - what we have witnessed is the possibility of a 14m SP and a 44m JV - combined with a stable 1.95 and 6.7X - with a breakthrough in hurdles, and a 200 that could easily return to 22.9X, for an 'eyeballs out' 800 for Olympic gold and 7000 plus.score...

[Christy93]

I'd go along with that, it just really caught me off guard that is wasnt the usual suspects, I saw some really big name US coaches, British athletes, Irish, Aussies all making their feelings explictly known or liking comments that did. Havent seen a reaction like that before.

[RunUnlimited]

The number of female 400m runners (and other athletes & coaches) being really openly suspicious of Naser's run on social media really caught my eye. A lot of them have raced her and will do so again - Bold to be so open...

Well, until such time as she fails a test or likewise, then I'm going to take hers (and Miller-Uibo's) performances tonight on face value and call them incredible, not "unbelieveable" performances... Like how Gred Lemond called Lance Armstrong's performance in the first of his 7 consecutive TdF "victories" when he was interviewed afterwards by the press, he called them "unbelieveable"... because he knew that Lance and the other riders coming through in that era were doping, but couldn't come out and say it because of the support system Armstrong had around him that would attack anybody casting suspicion his way.

I can understand people being suspicious... No female 400m runner has run as fast since Marita Koch's WR run in '85 - and that performance was almost certainly performance enhanced (and possibly wind aided too). But I'll always give the benefit of the doubt to the athlete unless it was clear something was going on that makes their runs look suspect.

[Christy93]

22.8 would have placed Naser in the top 8 in the 200m final yesterday! Incredible stuff!

The number of female 400m runners (and other athletes & coaches) being really openly suspicious of Naser's run on social media really caught my eye. A lot of them have raced her and will do so again - Bold to be so open...

[CAML]

I thought 2015/16 had broken Kat. Happy to be proved wrong. Mike Holmes did a wonderful job nurturing her talent.